The reasonable adjustments can probably be demonstrated by the size and
contrast adjustments I first mentioned for people with some usable sight, and
the Sky app for anyone with a vi who has an iPhone or iPad. These tick the
majority box and shows that they are trying. It's tough for us, but I doubt
we'll get any help from the law.
Size and contrast adjustment on the Sky digibox is of no use to me, but I
applaud it nevertheless as it is helping some visually impaired people.
Sky are doing for vi people, for free, more than Virgin,, and a lot more than
other multi-media device manufacturers, such as those who make hi-fi and
radios. DVD player manufacturers are lagging far behind too. If I want to
watch a DVD on my TV, I need sighted assistance to find the audio described
version, if there is one, then to get the thing playing. There's been nothing
in the way of accessibility in VDB players since they came out.
Sadly, we do have to face up to the fact that not everything is going to be
accessible before the 2020 deadline set by 2020 Vision for access for all, but
things are much better now than 20 years ago, so who knows how good the future
will be.
Cheers
Barry
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Spring Flower
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 8:35 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibility on Sky
so, what are the reasonableadjustments i wonder
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Hill" <barry.hill3@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 12:13 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibility on Sky
There's two problems with proving that they are discriminating. The first
is that it is individuals who have to bring the case against Sky. Yes,
someone like the RNIB could do it on our behalf, but do they have the
incentive to risk wasting thousands if not millions on fighting a company
who have thousands if not millions in reserve to fight such cases. The
second problem is that they use the 'reasonable adjustment' vagary. They
can show that they are doing something to improve accessibility, so who is
going to take them to court to fight for discrimination.
The best thing us humble VI folk can do is to nag their customer services.
Cheers
Barry
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Spring Flower
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:21 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibility on Sky
i don't know how they get away with as under the anti discrimination act
surely they should be doing something and no, i don't mean the sky talker
either
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----- Original Message -----
From: "martin wilsher" <martinwilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:58 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibility on Sky
Digital exclusion is a real problem, and tbh sky should have put their
millions into development of an accessible box. I remember talking to
them in 2003 about it. it's now 12 years on, and in sky box terms, we
totally blind have got nowhere. You can exclude sky talker, as that's
not
viable now, and never was, as the box outstripped the capabilities of the
blindie box attachment even before release. Sky should have invested in
an accessible solution for their boxes from the ground up, and why on
earth they didn't look into adapting the tvonix boxes I will never know,
as the ground work had been done in that case. Sky must have known about
the talking freeview box. Their attention to their blind, non-digital
customers has been woeful tbh. I fear for the non-digital blind person's
access to tv technology, they can only get further and further behind.
An
accessible box, from switch on is possible, and sky should be making all
efforts to create one, as accessibility helps
everyone, not just blind people.
From martin.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 30 April 2015 11:26
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibility on Sky
Hello all,
I wonder how this will help those viewers not online/those not using apps
on Smartphones? (apparently about a third of all disabled people have
never used the internet, according to Office for National Statistics
figures. The proportion is about the same among people aged 65 to 74 and
far fewer people over 75 have ever been online…that says nothing about
those who have used the internet but struggle).
Best,
Clive
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: 29 April 2015 23:21
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibility on Sky
I didn’t know this.
Alison
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 29 April 2015 21:25
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibility on Sky
Hi Alison.
Sky Talker is no longer available I’m afraid, it was only ever compatible
with the original Sky and Sky Plus boxes, and since they’ve moved to HD
equipment now for which their is no compatible connection for the Sky
Talker unit itself, Sky decided to sease production. The accessibility
features are now being concentrated on their smartphone apps, on Android
and iOS.
All the best, Ibrahim.
From: CJ &AA MAY <mailto:chrisalismay@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:02 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibility on Sky
There is also Sky Talker of course, but the voice is so awful! But it is
useful for providing a synopsis, indicating which channel you are on and
whether that programme has audio descripton.
Alison
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry Hill
Sent: 28 April 2015 21:55
To: 'Barry Hill'
Subject: [access-uk] Accessibility on Sky
Hi all
Sky have a new level of accessibility for their Sky box and on-screen
menu’s.
You can now increase contrast and font size.
Cheers
Barry
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