[access-uk] Re: Betternet.

  • From: Alex Stone <alex.stone@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 10:34:42 +0000



On 29/11/2015 09:41, James English wrote:

Hi,

James, sorry to send this on list, but for some reason Mozilla Thunderbird
doesn't seem to want to let me have your e-mail address. Anyway, what site do
you run, I'd like to check it out. I would check the list archives, but me and
frelists archives don't see eye to eye.
Cheers
Alex
One of the major issues with many privacy services is that they keep
logs. Yeah, stupid.
Some countries require them: therefore I keep logs but autodelete them
after a day.

Their are some free proxy websites (go on the website, enter URL,
surprise surprise it's unblocked), but I'm not sure on their creds.

On 11/29/15, Les Smithson <lsmithso57@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
How do I use my phone if its inside an oven?

What's that about ultrasonic snooping? Can you point me at a link?
Google didn't come up with anything, or maybe GCHQ got to them first.



Shaun O'Connor writes:
>
> two usefull tactice
> 1) put your phone in a faraday pouch when out and about(that blocks rf
> both ways)
> 2) place your phone in a microwave oven and close the door(same purpose
> blocks rf both ways), however in the second scenario make sure you do
> NOT accidentally turn on your microwave with the phone still inside.
>
> however in both instances ultrasonic technology can potentially bypass
> this simple measure.(rumour has it that advertising companies are
> exploring this area in a bid to defeat ever increesingly sophisticated
> ad blocking tech)
> On 28/11/2015 23:56, Alex Stone wrote:
> > Didn't Edward Snowdon reveal some of this stuff? I listened to him
> > being interviewed on a podcast the other day, it was very interesting,

> > just don't think that just because your phone is switched off they
> > can't find anything out.
> >
> > On 28/11/2015 23:53, Shaun O'Connor wrote:
> >>
> >> It is already technically posible to unmask a persons identiy even if

> >> anonymising sodftwere or services are used, as an example the tor
> >> network has been penetrated and wrongdoers discovered and appropriate

> >> action taken.
> >>
> >> to understand how unmasking is actually acheived would require a book

> >> in itself to explain the possibilities so, to some extent the
> >> authorities" are already deeply embbedded in the system.
> >>
> >> by their nature most VPN services are compromised by virtue of the
> >> fact tht a potential user is required to submit personal information
> >> (either directly or indirectly) to the provider.
> >>
> >> however I'm only skimming the surface of how your identity can be
> >> compromised.
> >>
> >> Turning to the legality of using such services it much depends where
> >> you are operating from, currently it is NOT an offence to use vpn
> >> seercies in the UK but this could change at any given moment. the
> >> question that should be upper most on your mind is the purpose for
> >> which you intend to use the service. and the changing political
> >> climate, todays acceptable use could be tomorrows "criminal"
activity.
> >> bear in mind also that your service provider can generally determine
> >> if you are using a proxy service ( especially so called hidden
> >> services), and the very use of such services renders you as " a
> >> potential person of interest" to the authorities.
> >>
> >>> Greetings,
> >>>
> >>> My querie as to legality arose when I read about being able to
> >>> access sites
> >>> anonymously and hide identities.
> >>>
> >>> I wonder how much longer it will be before those in authority find a

> >>> way of
> >>> stopping anonymous access of any kind?
> >>>
> >>>
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