Yes, I completely concur with what you say here. I couldn't do without my markup for Daisy Bible either. What they're saying is that you're not being forced to go that route and can stay with Daisy if you wish, but I too think there's possibly a hidden agenda to phase out Daisy. A number of those who loaned players now no longer have them as they were all suffering overwork or whatever, and I know this has meant that a particular book club has dwindled rapidly as they no longer have the players. However, I maintain they're cheap enough and there are second-hand models around and Daisy surely is well worth fighting to keep. Therefore, I don't mind considering taking books from OverDrive, but I'd never want to do this and suggest by doing so that I don't mind if Daisy is gradually phased out, because I do! I think that's just made up my mind that, though I was seriously thinking of trying it, I'm now not going to and will ask for Daisy books instead. Incidentally, I've heard the phrase used "Daisy will be around for the foreseeable future ..." and what does that mean! Carol P ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Nutt To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 6:10 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: DAISY FORMAT AND MP3'S USED IN OVERDRIVE Hi Carol, It really depends on the type of book you are reading. For example, I have the Daisy version of the NIV Bible from Torch. You can move as little as a verse, by moving by phrase. No way can you do that in any Overdrive book, because there is no markup. This is why I maintain that we are not getting an equal service to theCD users, who get full Daisy markup. Can you imagine if there was a Bible on Overdrive and you could only move by an arbitrary number of minutes? Wouldn't make for much in the way of interesting navigation, would it? I get the feeling that RNIB would like to abandon Daisy by taking this action, but can't be sure. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol.Pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 30 January 2015 22:02 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] DAISY FORMAT AND MP3'S USED IN OVERDRIVE Hi all, I'm seeking to get a better understanding of what actually works and what doesn't. I really love Daisy and am told that, even in Overdrive, certain things, such as headers, will work. I understand also that RNIB have markers every three minutes in their books in this library. Can anyone who is well used to the ease and luxury of Daisy please tell me any more about the restrictions OverDrive presents when these books are transferred to the Victor Stream. Thanks for any input on this one. Carol P