[access-uk] Re: Downloading with the BBC iPlayer
- From: "Alasdair King" <alasdairking@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:07:44 +0000
WebbIE won't work with the online iPlayer: I was providing
instructions for using it with a screenreader and Internet Explorer. I
wouldn't write an application that required counting nineteen tab
presses to do something, I assure you!
WebbIE and the Accessible programs are designed to make common tasks
simple for screenreader users. They aren't designed to handle rare
tasks or situations: that's what you use your expensive screenreader
for. Now, from this list discussion, expensive screenreaders aren't
handling this rare task or situation either, but that's not the
point...
After all, why do an Accessible iPlayer when JAWS can navigate the
iPlayer page? Why do an Accessible BBC Listen Again when JAWS can
navigate the BBC Listen Again page? And why do WebbIE when JAWS can
navigate any given web page? Because the general-purpose screenreader
isn't always the best tool for the job. Everyone is different: some
people like the extra control of screenreader plus web browser, some
people like the easy search, crop and read functions in WebbIE. (And,
of course, its price...) There is no one true Right Way, and that's
cool.
Thanks for the positive comments about Listen Again and Live Radio,
much appreciated. If anyone here is from Freedom Scientific and wants
to ship them with JAWS, do let me know!
Best wishes,
Alasdair King
WebbIE
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:32 AM, Dave Taylor <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> OK now this is why I won't use webbie. Take all those instructions, and in
> every case replace 17, yes 17 tabs, with one press of either E or B in jaws
> to get you to the edit area, F in Window Eyes, and sorry I can't remember
> the dolphin keystroke, but I know there is one. What would be really useful
> though would be an accessible version of Iplayer to go along with Listen
> Again, Live Radio, etc, which are fantastic programs. Accessible 4OD would
> also be brilliant, and what about one for ITV as well? Maybe we actually now
> need a big Accessible streamer so we can do it all from one program, with
> just patches to update if links get broken. I must say these programs do
> really make things very quick and easy indeed.
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> From: "Alasdair King" <alasdairking@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:17 PM
>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Downloading with the BBC iPlayer
>
>
>
> > Two ways of using iPlayer:
> >
> > 1 Download. This uses Kontiki, same system as Channel 4. You have to
> > install some software. You download and watch in Windows Media Player.
> >
> > 2 Flash, online. No download. You should (in Internet Explorer) be
> > able to tab around the page. Here's some of the details:
> >
> > There are several ways to get to the programmes. Tab about seventeen
> > times and you'll get to a search box. Type the name of the programme
> > (e.g. "Ashes to Ashes") and hit return.
> >
> > The results page loads. These are in a random order. Tab seventeen
> > times to the search box again, then once more to a button labelled
> > "Find Programmes", then once more and you're in the results entries.
> > Each entry has a link followed by another garbage link. Tab until you
> > get to the programme you were seeking. Hit return.
> >
> > The page with the programme now loads. It has a big Flash video that
> > shows the programme, which is again just after the search box
> > seventeen nineteen tabs in. Tab eighteen times until you get to the
> > "Find programmes" link and once more to a button. This is the Flash
> > video. Hit return and it should start playing. Tab around a couple
> > more times and you should find play, stop and volume controls.
> >
> > Phew!
> >
> > Alasdair
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 3:11 PM, John Wilson <j.wilson07@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >> Hello darren,
> >>
> >> You need to go onto the BBC site to the Contact Us link and
> >> make a complaint.
> >>
> >> I have tried to find any means of streaming programs from
> >> the last 7 days but had no success. Apparently, you have to
> >> be able to see a graphic to be able to use it. However,
> >> whatever you need to do, it's nowhere near reasonably
> >> accessible and would not meet any kind of W3C standards.
> >>
> >> John.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Sleepysaurus" <sleepysaurus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: "Access-UK" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:37 PM
> >> Subject: [access-uk] Downloading with the BBC iPlayer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi List.
> >> >
> >> > Has anyone successfully made a download with this thing?
> >> >
> >> > I've got the software downloading and installed, but I'm
> >> > getting nowhere in
> >> > a hurry as I try to download or stream the particular
> >> > programme I'm
> >> > interested in.
> >> >
> >> > Any helpful advice on using this setup would be
> >> > appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> > Darran
> >> >
> >> > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following
> >> > link:-
> >> > **
> >> > [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe]
> >> > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
> >> > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > ** and in the Subject line type
> >> > ** unsubscribe
> >> > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on
> >> > the
> >> > ** immediately-following link:-
> >> > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq]
> >> > ** or send a message, to
> >> > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >> > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1306 - Release
> >> > Date: 01/03/2008 17:41
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:-
> >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe]
> >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
> >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> ** and in the Subject line type
> >> ** unsubscribe
> >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the
> >> ** immediately-following link:-
> >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq]
> >> ** or send a message, to
> >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Alasdair King
> > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:-
> > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe]
> > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
> > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > ** and in the Subject line type
> > ** unsubscribe
> > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the
> > ** immediately-following link:-
> > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq]
> > ** or send a message, to
> > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.4/1312 - Release Date:
> > 04/03/2008 21:46
>
>
> >
> >
> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:-
> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe]
> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ** and in the Subject line type
> ** unsubscribe
> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the
> ** immediately-following link:-
> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq]
> ** or send a message, to
> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
>
>
--
Alasdair King
** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:-
** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe]
** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** unsubscribe
** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the
** immediately-following link:-
** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq]
** or send a message, to
** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
Other related posts: