[access-uk] Re: Ethics of book sharing services
- From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:11:09 +0100
Bookshare works on the premise that it's an agency that provides books
to people who are registered visually impaired. I think it doesn't
really matter who scanned the texts.
Or rather, that's how a bookshare would work in the UK. I understand
there is a subtle difference in the law between Britain and the US on
this matter.
...Damon
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Angel
Sent: 20 April 2005 10:09
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ethics of book sharing services
I don't know, I sort of assumed this because of book share. After all
private people scanned those books before uploading them to book share,
yes? Also, I am from America and it is my understanding you guys can't
use book share. If what you say is the truth then it seems to me you
should do what you can to change the laws over there. You had a blind
guy in government who was pretty high up there who could have helped
with issues such as these it seems to me. On the other hand, if he had
been more interested in issues concerning the blind community and had
taken better care of his personal life he might not have been
disgraced.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tink Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 5:22 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ethics of book sharing services
> Angel,
>
> I'm not completely familiar with the changes to the copyright law,
> but is scanning permitted by individual people? I'd got the
> impression, from listening to the copyright notices at the start of
> recent RNIB Talking Books, that there needed to be a known
> organisation behind the copying and distribution of any accessible
> format material. Does anyone know?
>
> Cheers,
> Tink.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Angel" <angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 7:19 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ethics of book sharing services
>
>
> >I think the copywrite laws allow outfits such as bookshare and the
various
> > library services for the blind to reproduce their books for lending.
This
> > is why we are permitted to scan these books as well. Probably not
> > all publishers permit this, which is why I think the selection is
> > limeted.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 1:03 PM
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ethics of book sharing services
> >
> >
> >> Andrew ... if the publishers can't be bothered to make commercial
> >> versions of the books available to us in accessible formats, then
> >> they're not going
> >> to get any profit from us. It's their own fault. They'd rather
> > characterise
> >> us as a problem than come up with an accessible solution it seems.
> >>
> >> I'd dearly love to be able to buy books from my favourite authors
> >> and have them benefit as a result of my purchase ... and hence
> >> encourage them to write more books.
> >>
> >> Until businesses stop seeing disabled peple as a problem and start
seeing
> > us
> >> as a market, and as important, then the ethics of what we're doing
> >> to gain access to books is something of a side issue. We can only
> >> conclude
they
> > are
> >> happy with the status quo and are perfectly happy to tolerate what
we're
> >> doing and they'd rather not have our money.
> >>
> >> I find it bizarre.
> >>
> >> ...Damon
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 5:53 PM
> >> Subject: [access-uk] Ethics of book sharing services
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Ok, recent discussion has prompted me to post these questions which
> >> I wouldn't have necessairly posted, but had thought about when
> >> hearing of Bookshare et al.
> >>
> >> With Bookshare, you pay a flat fee each year to subscribe to the
> >> service, which according to interviews with representatives from
> >> Bookshare etc, they describe it as like a Napster service, but the
books
> >> are all on the Bookshare servers.
> >>
> >> However, with this set-up, does the original author of the
> >> book/publisher etc get anything back? How do the publishers let
> >> these books go onto the site, being that they may not see any of
> >> the money? Furthermore, baring in mind book sales etc, when we
> >> download a book
from
> >> Bookshare or another similar service, this does not go to the tally
> >> of the author, and so the books we read aren't added to the sales
> >> figures. Yes, this last bit is a bit weak, because sighted people
> >> pass books around etc. However, I am just wondering what actually
> >> happens?
> >>
> >> Discuss.
> >> Andrew.
> >>
> >>
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