Jaws is free if you know where to get it. On 1/30/15, Eleanor Martha Burke <eleanormarthaburke@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > System Access magnification is not high enough for me, I need something > better. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Saqib Hussain" <saqibh23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:12 AM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Happy 20th Birthday, JAWS for Windows > > >> Hi. I could never justify the cost of Jaws so I went for System Access >> 7 years ago. I still now couldn't get use to using Jaws because my own >> screenreader does everything so well for me and it just flows. >> >> On 29/01/2015, Eleanor Martha Burke <eleanormarthaburke@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> I found when I started at the Opoen University, they knew all about JAWS >>> >>> as >>> >>> a screen reader and had it loaded on computers for accessability at some >>> courses I attended but they didn't have a clue about Dolphin Supernova >>> which >>> >>> is my screen reader on Windows. While people do knock it, its great >>> advantage is the magnification and speech together. True there is Magic >>> which can be used in conjunction with JAWS but at such a price! Nobody >>> has >>> >>> mentioned Zoomtext, though it has magnification and speech I favour >>> Dolphin >>> >>> Supernova above it. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 7:12 PM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Happy 20th Birthday, JAWS for Windows >>> >>> >>>> Well I think most Jaws customers are employers of the users! >>>> or the customers are the government as in say access to work. >>>> >>>> So most users won't care how much jaws costs, if not paying >>>> personally! >>>> >>>> Derek >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>>> Behalf Of Mike Ray >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:17 PM >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Happy 20th Birthday, JAWS for Windows >>>> >>>> >>>> And I don't suppose anybody else who is an avid Jaws user can afford >>>> to >>>> throw a party, after paying for the thing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 29/01/2015 10:42, Jackie Brown wrote: >>>>> Wish I could throw a party, but I have no inclination! (smile). >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> Jackie Brown >>>>> Emails: thebrownsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> jackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Website: www.thebrownsplace.info >>>>> Twitter: @thebrownsplace >>>>> Skype: thejackmate >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>>> Behalf Of >>>>> Colin Howard >>>>> Sent: 28 January 2015 20:26 >>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Happy 20th Birthday, JAWS for Windows >>>>> >>>>> Greetings, >>>>> >>>>> Seen on the VicugL group, thought it may be of interest! Shows how >>>> rapidly >>>>> time passes! >>>>> >>>>> From: David Goldfield <david.goldfield@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:46:24 -0500 >>>>> >>>>> Episode 102 of Freedom Scientific's FSCast podcast reminds us that >>>> 2015 >>>>> marks the 20th anniversary of the JAWS for Windows screen reader. In >>>> fact, >>>>> Jonathan Mosen reminds us that January is, in fact, the month in >>>> which JAWS >>>>> turned 20. I remember installing and using JFW 1.0 back in January >>>> of 1995 >>>>> and I thought I'd dedicate this short blog post to some of my early >>>>> memories of that product and of that time in general. >>>>> >>>>> In 1995, I was working for Blazie Engineering providing technical >>>> support. >>>>> Windows 3.1 was a fairly well-established operating system with >>>> several >>>>> Windows screen readers already available, including Blazie's own >>>> Windows >>>>> Master which I believe was already out at that time. While I had >>>> used >>>>> Windows 3.1 and was familiar with it on a very basic level, I was a >>>> edicated >>>>> DOS user. While I was very familiar with Vocal-eyes and JAWS for >>>> DOS, ASAP >>>>> from Microtalk was my screen reader of choice, along with a trusty >>>> Braille >>>>> 'n Speak as my speech synthesizer. >>>>> It was during the end of 1994 or the very beginning of 1995 when we >>>> received >>>>> our boxed copy of JAWS for Windows 1.0, with January 19, 1995 being >>>> the >>>>> official launch date of that product. If you really want to read a >>>> piece of >>>>> classic assistive technology history, you can, courtesy of the >>>> Internet >>>>> Archive's Wayback Machine, read the December 1994 Henter-Joyce >>>> newsletter >>>>> which, among other things, contains the big announcement regarding >>>> JFW 1.0. >>>>> >>>>> Around this time, I found out I had enlarged tonsils which needed to >>>> be >>>>> removed. As I constantly used my voice to do my job, it was >>>> recommended I >>>>> stay home for two weeks during my recuperation. This was, I decided, >>>> the >>>>> perfect time to finally dive into Windows 3.1 with our new copy of >>>> JAWS for >>>>> Windows, version 1.0. >>>>> >>>>> The box contained a collection of cassette tapes with tutorials >>>> recorded by >>>>> Eric Damery and Ted Henter. Eric's voice is very familiar to JAWS >>>> users as >>>>> he annually introduces the new features which are being added to new >>>> JAWS >>>>> versions. Eric has participated in these recordings since the very >>>> beginning >>>>> of JFW and, even in the 1.0 days, was a fabulous and professional >>>> presenter. >>>>> I think the product was often referred to as JFW or JAWS for Windows >>>> more >>>>> than it is today as Henter-Joyce wanted to distinguish it from the >>>> other >>>>> JAWS product which ran on DOS machines. >>>>> Once I listened to some of the tutorials, I installed the product >>>> onto my >>>>> Windows 3.1 machine from the included 3.5 inch floppy disks, >>>> followed by the >>>>> authorization key, also on a floppy, a form of copy protection I had >>>>> previously never heard of and was having some difficulty wrapping my >>>> mind >>>>> around. After all, in those days most software packages never had >>>> any sort >>>>> of copy protection; you installed it and then used it. >>>>> Well, the installation and authorization process went smoothly and, >>>> soon >>>>> thereafter, I had JFW working with my trusty Bns 640. After all, for >>>> the >>>>> most part we had no software-based synthesizers at that time and so >>>> you >>>>> needed a bns, Accent, Artic, Audapter, Dec-talk or Doubletalk to get >>>> speech, >>>>> with no Braille support at that time. >>>>> They wanted JFW to feel like JAWS for DOS by giving it a PC cursor >>>> as well >>>>> as a JAWS cursor. It included the insert-G hotkey to label graphics >>>> and the >>>>> insert-T hotkey to read the window title, two features we didn't >>>> really need >>>>> in DOS. Insert-down arrow was the "say all" key and the other keys >>>> on the >>>>> numeric keypad tried to emulate what we were used to with JFD. I >>>> remember >>>>> this first version crashing quite a lot but this was quickly fixed >>>> in an >>>>> update which I probably downloaded from the Henter-Joyce BBS. >>>>> >>>>> If you're curious about what was added in JFW 2.0, you can go to >>>> their >>>>> announcement on an old version of the Henter-Joyce home page, also >>>> courtesy >>>>> of the Internet Archive. >>>>> Those early versions would have seemed so limited to us compared to >>>> what we >>>>> have today, but back then it was cutting-edge technology. The JAWS >>>> cursor >>>>> could only move within the active window. When using the Internet, >>>> you had >>>>> to press insert-f5 to reformat the page, which you read using the >>>> JAWS >>>>> cursor. You couldn't freely navigate through a Web page using >>>> standard >>>>> reading commands with the PC cursor the way you can with any screen >>>> reader >>>>> today. If my memory is correct, that capability didn't get >>>> implemented until >>>>> version 3.31. In fact, the ability to use single letter navigation >>>> keys, >>>>> such as pressing H for heading or N to jump to the next block of >>>> text wasn't >>>>> even implemented until a later version, probably around 3.5. >>>>> What more can I say, except a happy 20th birthday to JFW, or JAWS as >>>> we now >>>>> call it. JAWS has certainly come a long way in the past 20 years. I >>>> wonder >>>>> what it will be like 20 years from now. I'm sure that it will be >>>> supporting >>>>> Windows 43 or whatever OS Microsoft will have pushed out to us and >>>> we'll all >>>>> have fond memories of running our screen readers on those ancient, >>>> primitive >>>>> Windows 7 computers. It's too bad that the Internet Archive doesn't >>>> supply >>>>> us with snapshots of pages from the future. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Michael A. 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