Hi. I could never justify the cost of Jaws so I went for System Access 7 years ago. I still now couldn't get use to using Jaws because my own screenreader does everything so well for me and it just flows. On 29/01/2015, Eleanor Martha Burke <eleanormarthaburke@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I found when I started at the Opoen University, they knew all about JAWS as > > a screen reader and had it loaded on computers for accessability at some > courses I attended but they didn't have a clue about Dolphin Supernova which > > is my screen reader on Windows. While people do knock it, its great > advantage is the magnification and speech together. True there is Magic > which can be used in conjunction with JAWS but at such a price! Nobody has > > mentioned Zoomtext, though it has magnification and speech I favour Dolphin > > Supernova above it. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 7:12 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Happy 20th Birthday, JAWS for Windows > > >> Well I think most Jaws customers are employers of the users! >> or the customers are the government as in say access to work. >> >> So most users won't care how much jaws costs, if not paying >> personally! >> >> Derek >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Mike Ray >> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:17 PM >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Happy 20th Birthday, JAWS for Windows >> >> >> And I don't suppose anybody else who is an avid Jaws user can afford >> to >> throw a party, after paying for the thing. >> >> >> >> >> On 29/01/2015 10:42, Jackie Brown wrote: >>> Wish I could throw a party, but I have no inclination! (smile). >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Jackie Brown >>> Emails: thebrownsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx >>> jackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Website: www.thebrownsplace.info >>> Twitter: @thebrownsplace >>> Skype: thejackmate >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of >>> Colin Howard >>> Sent: 28 January 2015 20:26 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Happy 20th Birthday, JAWS for Windows >>> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> Seen on the VicugL group, thought it may be of interest! Shows how >> rapidly >>> time passes! >>> >>> From: David Goldfield <david.goldfield@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:46:24 -0500 >>> >>> Episode 102 of Freedom Scientific's FSCast podcast reminds us that >> 2015 >>> marks the 20th anniversary of the JAWS for Windows screen reader. In >> fact, >>> Jonathan Mosen reminds us that January is, in fact, the month in >> which JAWS >>> turned 20. I remember installing and using JFW 1.0 back in January >> of 1995 >>> and I thought I'd dedicate this short blog post to some of my early >>> memories of that product and of that time in general. >>> >>> In 1995, I was working for Blazie Engineering providing technical >> support. >>> Windows 3.1 was a fairly well-established operating system with >> several >>> Windows screen readers already available, including Blazie's own >> Windows >>> Master which I believe was already out at that time. While I had >> used >>> Windows 3.1 and was familiar with it on a very basic level, I was a >> edicated >>> DOS user. While I was very familiar with Vocal-eyes and JAWS for >> DOS, ASAP >>> from Microtalk was my screen reader of choice, along with a trusty >> Braille >>> 'n Speak as my speech synthesizer. >>> It was during the end of 1994 or the very beginning of 1995 when we >> received >>> our boxed copy of JAWS for Windows 1.0, with January 19, 1995 being >> the >>> official launch date of that product. If you really want to read a >> piece of >>> classic assistive technology history, you can, courtesy of the >> Internet >>> Archive's Wayback Machine, read the December 1994 Henter-Joyce >> newsletter >>> which, among other things, contains the big announcement regarding >> JFW 1.0. >>> >>> Around this time, I found out I had enlarged tonsils which needed to >> be >>> removed. As I constantly used my voice to do my job, it was >> recommended I >>> stay home for two weeks during my recuperation. This was, I decided, >> the >>> perfect time to finally dive into Windows 3.1 with our new copy of >> JAWS for >>> Windows, version 1.0. >>> >>> The box contained a collection of cassette tapes with tutorials >> recorded by >>> Eric Damery and Ted Henter. Eric's voice is very familiar to JAWS >> users as >>> he annually introduces the new features which are being added to new >> JAWS >>> versions. Eric has participated in these recordings since the very >> beginning >>> of JFW and, even in the 1.0 days, was a fabulous and professional >> presenter. >>> I think the product was often referred to as JFW or JAWS for Windows >> more >>> than it is today as Henter-Joyce wanted to distinguish it from the >> other >>> JAWS product which ran on DOS machines. >>> Once I listened to some of the tutorials, I installed the product >> onto my >>> Windows 3.1 machine from the included 3.5 inch floppy disks, >> followed by the >>> authorization key, also on a floppy, a form of copy protection I had >>> previously never heard of and was having some difficulty wrapping my >> mind >>> around. After all, in those days most software packages never had >> any sort >>> of copy protection; you installed it and then used it. >>> Well, the installation and authorization process went smoothly and, >> soon >>> thereafter, I had JFW working with my trusty Bns 640. After all, for >> the >>> most part we had no software-based synthesizers at that time and so >> you >>> needed a bns, Accent, Artic, Audapter, Dec-talk or Doubletalk to get >> speech, >>> with no Braille support at that time. >>> They wanted JFW to feel like JAWS for DOS by giving it a PC cursor >> as well >>> as a JAWS cursor. It included the insert-G hotkey to label graphics >> and the >>> insert-T hotkey to read the window title, two features we didn't >> really need >>> in DOS. Insert-down arrow was the "say all" key and the other keys >> on the >>> numeric keypad tried to emulate what we were used to with JFD. I >> remember >>> this first version crashing quite a lot but this was quickly fixed >> in an >>> update which I probably downloaded from the Henter-Joyce BBS. >>> >>> If you're curious about what was added in JFW 2.0, you can go to >> their >>> announcement on an old version of the Henter-Joyce home page, also >> courtesy >>> of the Internet Archive. >>> Those early versions would have seemed so limited to us compared to >> what we >>> have today, but back then it was cutting-edge technology. The JAWS >> cursor >>> could only move within the active window. When using the Internet, >> you had >>> to press insert-f5 to reformat the page, which you read using the >> JAWS >>> cursor. You couldn't freely navigate through a Web page using >> standard >>> reading commands with the PC cursor the way you can with any screen >> reader >>> today. If my memory is correct, that capability didn't get >> implemented until >>> version 3.31. In fact, the ability to use single letter navigation >> keys, >>> such as pressing H for heading or N to jump to the next block of >> text wasn't >>> even implemented until a later version, probably around 3.5. >>> What more can I say, except a happy 20th birthday to JFW, or JAWS as >> we now >>> call it. JAWS has certainly come a long way in the past 20 years. I >> wonder >>> what it will be like 20 years from now. I'm sure that it will be >> supporting >>> Windows 43 or whatever OS Microsoft will have pushed out to us and >> we'll all >>> have fond memories of running our screen readers on those ancient, >> primitive >>> Windows 7 computers. It's too bad that the Internet Archive doesn't >> supply >>> us with snapshots of pages from the future. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Michael A. 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