Steve - the fear I think we have is if our screen reader is "knocked out of the water" we won't then have a working machine to get back to the list and ask what to do next! - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 3:49 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | Hi Andy, | | Most of them are not tricky, except for installing Windows. Now that I | wouldn't recommend without sight, unless you really know what you are doing. | But updating video and sound drivers? I would say that is relatively easy. | Just run an installer and hit next a couple of times, making sure you | uncheck some free games that some of them want to install on your system, | and that's all there is to it. Now agreed, it could knock your screen | reader out the water, but for me, I have never have a video or sound driver | leave me without the use of a computer. I am just saying that most of this | is a lack of confidence on the blind person's part, and more usually, | someone else telling them they can't do it without sighted assistance, which | is worse than the blind person themselves not having confidence. Yes, there | are risks, but it is certainly doable. | | All the best | | Steve | | -----Original Message----- | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of | Andy Collins | Sent: Saturday 16 February 2008 13:14 | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | | You see Steve - these things that are difficult without sight but possible, | I'm sure many of us would like to know about, and how to do, it's part of | our independent living, but also mostly because we just don't have sighted | help most of the time. Has anybody put together any work arounds for these | tricky tasks, when there is non-sighted help available? - | | Andy | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:33 PM | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | | || Hi George, || || Dunno. All I can say is that I update all my drivers all the time with | very || few problems, unless the driver itself is causing problems. I have had | this || occasionally, particularly with an updated IDE driver. The system | wouldn't || boot after it, and I had to get back to last known good configuration. | That || is real fun without sight, but possible <Smile>. || || All the best || || Steve || || -----Original Message----- || From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf | Of || George Bell || Sent: Friday 15 February 2008 20:02 || To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx || Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please || || Perhaps 90% of the time, Steve, but McGillicuddy is a real bar steward for || the other 10%. || || George. || || -----Original Message----- || From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx || [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt || Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:24 PM || To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx || Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please || || Hi George, || || This is incorrect. With both Window-Eyes and JAWS, you can easily do it. || What happens is that on the reboot when the video drivers have been | updated, || both of them will ask you to reboot while they update the video | intercepts. || You are behind the times <Smile>. In fact, I even tried it with Hal and | it || works. || || All the best || || Steve || || -----Original Message----- || From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx || [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell || Sent: Friday 15 February 2008 16:12 || To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx || Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please || || Hi Andy, || || You don't need to uninstall the old ATI drivers, but I'd be a shade wary || about installing new video drivers without sighted help to hand. It will || most likely break the video chain to your screen reader, leaving you | without || speech, and the necessity to re-install your screen reader. || || George. || || -----Original Message----- || From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx || [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Collins || Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:34 PM || To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx || Subject: [access-uk] Help with drivers please || || Hi all - || || I'm pasting my message from yesterday here again, as it got no responce, | and || I'm sure there are people on this list that can help, so please do if you || can, it's always apreciated. || || Start of message: || || Hi all - || || Ok, a scan of my PC tells me that certain drivers need updating, and I'm || trying to understand quite what to do, and what I need to download! || || When I click on the link from driveragent.com to update the driver, the | page || that comes up says: || || "The following packages will provide display drivers and capture drivers || that can be used with various video capture programs." || || And then it lists what is in the package, the first thing being the | display || driver, is this all I'll need, or will I need the rest of the package that || includes things like 'catalyst control centre' or the 'WDM Integrated || Driver.' || || Can I ask too, if I need to uninstall from 'add/remove' || within the control || panel, the existing ati drivers that these updates are to replace? || || Thanks as ever - || || Andy || || ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following || link:- || ** || [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] || ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: || ** || access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx || ** and in the Subject line type || ** unsubscribe || ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the || ** immediately-following link:- || ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] || ** or send a message, to || ** || 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