Google mail is fine on mobile. I have no problems with it. Would be interested to hear from you off list re Outlook Express. -original message- Subject: [access-uk] Re: IMAP AND/OR POP3 From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 10:03:2009 5:40 pm Ibrahim and all who helped me to understand IMAP - thanks a million! I now have it sorted on my Outlook Express end and all is looking good, now that older items have been purged from Googlemail. Now I just have to set up my mobile account, or perhaps someone has found that Googlemail runs nicely on the mobile settings anyway. That's for another day though as I need to get thinking about a meal and leave the computer for a bit! (No doubt I'll slip back now and again to see how things are going and answer any goodies!) Anyway, this is just a really big "Thank you" because I'm sure it's going to work so much better for me in the long run! Without your help, and input from others also, I wouldn't have been brave enough to go for it! <Smiles> -- Carol carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---- Original Message ---- From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:53 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: IMAP AND/OR POP3 > Hi Carol. > > Basically, if you use imap, your mail remains on the server at the > mail provider until you move, delete or otherwise manipulate it. > Therefore, any device whether it be phone, computer or web interface > can see the messages in your inbox. Any changes you make to the > messages in your inbox or other folders will be reflected in all your > applications. Pop was an old protocol for use in the pre broadband > age where people would use dialup to access the internet. Messages > would be downloaded to your computer and then deleted from the mail > server so once on your computer, you would only be able to access > them from there. Simply put, if you only use one computer to access > the internet and don't often access your mail from public computers > or your phone, your probably OK with pop3 so long as you remember to > back up your mail folders containing your important mail in case of > computer failure. If you want your emails stored server side where > all your devices and computers can access them, you'll have to > configure imap. > > I hope this explains things for you. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carol Pearson > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:30 AM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: IMAP AND/OR POP3 > > > OK, Ibrahim, that was a good little list! > > I just don't understand how useful it will be to see email in real > time. For example, how I will be able to move it into folders and/or > look it up. Is it really the case that somehow you can see the > folders in your home Outlook Express, or is this just meant for mail > which you usually use on the WEB? (I think the latter, but the > former would be jolly useful sometimes!) > > If you're able to clarify this point it would be good and meantime > I'll check whether I can use IMAP for all my accounts. I know you > can with Google but have to check out NTL as well. > > >> Hi Carol. >> >> Take a look at this information I pulled from my mail provider's >> frequently asked questions. I believe it covers most of the reasons >> and differences between the two protocols. You'll have to find out >> whether imap is provided with your email service, as some only >> provide pop access. >> >> POP is a very simple protocol that only allows downloading of >> messages from your Inbox to your local computer. Generally, once >> transferred, the email is then on your local computer and is removed >> from your mail server (it is possible to leave them on the server, >> but they all stay in the Inbox). >> IMAP is a much more advanced protocol that allows you to see all your >> folders on the mail server , and quickly view subjects and message >> bodies of emails, but delay downloading of larger emails (such as >> those with attachments) to a later time if you want. IMAP also allows >> you to synchronise mail folders between your home machine and on the >> web, so that you see the same folders and messages wherever and >> however you access your email. >> IMAPPOP >> FlexibilityCan view just message headers, and then choose which >> messages to downloadHave to download all messages at once >> Can delete/move a message without having to download itHave to >> download all messages >> Can download just text body of a messageHave to download entire >> message (including any large attachments) >> SynchronisationCan view messages in all foldersCan only download >> messages from Inbox >> Any changes made via web interface or email software (eg move >> message, add flags, etc) appears in the other automaticallyOnce >> downloaded, changes only made on local email software >> Can access messages both at home/work, and on the road through the >> web interfaceOnce downloaded, can only access messages at home/work >> SafetyAll messages kept on FastMail.FM servers, including realtime >> replication to a backup server, and nightly incremental backups of >> all emails to yet another server kept for 1 weekOnce downloaded, copy >> only exists on your local computer, if it crashes, email is lost (it >> is possible to leave messages on the server, but all messages stay in >> the Inbox) >> >> To understand the power and usefulness of IMAP, we recommend you look >> through the following example usage scenario using Outlook Express. >> >> If you feel you need further help or explanation, please feel free to >> email me privately and I'll be happy to talk to you by phone about >> the options and benefits open to you. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Carol Pearson >> To: Access UK Mailing List >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:48 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] IMAP AND/OR POP3 >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> Having decided to take some email on my phone, I am wanting to >> understand more about the differences I will experience if I decide >> to use IMAP as opposed to POP3 for my NTL and Googlemail accounts. >> >> I understand, basically, that it's reckoned that IMAP is more stable >> (not giving extra copies of mail where this sometimes occurs with >> POP3), but I need to know more specifically how this will affect my >> day to day working. I don't use Google online but still much prefer >> to download to Outlook Express. In the case of POP3, everything >> comes into my In-box unless I specify to the contrary. Will this be >> the same with my Outlook Express if using IMAP? >> >> Do I need to set my phone and computer(s) all to use IMAP to get >> everything working correctly? >> >> Thanks for anything that you can offer on this. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq