Well, how can I tell after today? I'm quite enjoying the experience with just my computer changed, but I have yet to use my phone and other computer before I can see whether the whole system works for me.
Using Outlook Express is quite good, or at least seems to be, as I get more used to what's happening. I never was good at doing Googlemail live, which is why I always stuck to Outlook Express, but you do have a few of its features (folders) to deal with and so it's a sort of tiny step for me! Anyway, I'm getting there.
Ask me again in a couple of weeks and see how I'm finding it, Chris. -- Carol carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxOn Tuesday, March 10, 2009 6:33 PM (UK time), Chris Hallsworth at christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx said:
Has Googlemail's imap service improved then? I tried a while back but gave up due to unreliability. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:40 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: IMAP AND/OR POP3 Ibrahim and all who helped me to understand IMAP - thanks a million! I now have it sorted on my Outlook Express end and all is looking good, now that older items have been purged from Googlemail. Now I just have to set up my mobile account, or perhaps someone has found that Googlemail runs nicely on the mobile settings anyway. That's for another day though as I need to get thinking about a meal and leave the computer for a bit! (No doubt I'll slip back now and again to see how things are going and answer any goodies!) Anyway, this is just a really big "Thank you" because I'm sure it's going to work so much better for me in the long run! Without your help, and input from others also, I wouldn't have been brave enough to go for it! <Smiles>Hi Carol. Basically, if you use imap, your mail remains on the server at the mail provider until you move, delete or otherwise manipulate it. Therefore, any device whether it be phone, computer or web interface can see the messages in your inbox. Any changes you make to the messages in your inbox or other folders will be reflected in all your applications. Pop was an old protocol for use in the pre broadband age where people would use dialup to access the internet. Messages would be downloaded to your computer and then deleted from the mail server so once on your computer, you would only be able to access them from there. Simply put, if you only use one computer to access the internet and don't often access your mail from public computers or your phone, your probably OK with pop3 so long as you remember to back up your mail folders containing your important mail in case of computer failure. If you want your emails stored server side where all your devices and computers can access them, you'll have to configure imap. I hope this explains things for you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Pearson To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:30 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: IMAP AND/OR POP3 OK, Ibrahim, that was a good little list! I just don't understand how useful it will be to see email in real time. For example, how I will be able to move it into folders and/or look it up. Is it really the case that somehow you can see the folders in your home Outlook Express, or is this just meant for mail which you usually use on the WEB? (I think the latter, but the former would be jolly useful sometimes!) If you're able to clarify this point it would be good and meantime I'll check whether I can use IMAP for all my accounts. I know you can with Google but have to check out NTL as well.Hi Carol. Take a look at this information I pulled from my mail provider's frequently asked questions. I believe it covers most of the reasons and differences between the two protocols. You'll have to find out whether imap is provided with your email service, as some only provide pop access. POP is a very simple protocol that only allows downloading of messages from your Inbox to your local computer. Generally, once transferred, the email is then on your local computer and is removed from your mail server (it is possible to leave them on the server, but they all stay in the Inbox). IMAP is a much more advanced protocol that allows you to see all your folders on the mail server , and quickly view subjects and message bodies of emails, but delay downloading of larger emails (such as those with attachments) to a later time if you want. IMAP also allows you to synchronise mail folders between your home machine and on the web, so that you see the same folders and messages wherever and however you access your email. IMAPPOP FlexibilityCan view just message headers, and then choose which messages to downloadHave to download all messages at once Can delete/move a message without having to download itHave to download all messages Can download just text body of a messageHave to download entire message (including any large attachments) SynchronisationCan view messages in all foldersCan only download messages from Inbox Any changes made via web interface or email software (eg move message, add flags, etc) appears in the other automaticallyOnce downloaded, changes only made on local email software Can access messages both at home/work, and on the road through the web interfaceOnce downloaded, can only access messages at home/work SafetyAll messages kept on FastMail.FM servers, including realtime replication to a backup server, and nightly incremental backups of all emails to yet another server kept for 1 weekOnce downloaded, copy only exists on your local computer, if it crashes, email is lost (it is possible to leave messages on the server, but all messages stay in the Inbox) To understand the power and usefulness of IMAP, we recommend you look through the following example usage scenario using Outlook Express. If you feel you need further help or explanation, please feel free to email me privately and I'll be happy to talk to you by phone about the options and benefits open to you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Pearson To: Access UK Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:48 PM Subject: [access-uk] IMAP AND/OR POP3 Hi all, Having decided to take some email on my phone, I am wanting to understand more about the differences I will experience if I decide to use IMAP as opposed to POP3 for my NTL and Googlemail accounts. I understand, basically, that it's reckoned that IMAP is more stable (not giving extra copies of mail where this sometimes occurs with POP3), but I need to know more specifically how this will affect my day to day working. I don't use Google online but still much prefer to download to Outlook Express. In the case of POP3, everything comes into my In-box unless I specify to the contrary. Will this be the same with my Outlook Express if using IMAP? 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