Peter, thanks for the reminder that it is there. I might well need it yet <smile> - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 7:52 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Infuriating JAWS problem with BBC website! | Ok then. Why not use the free system access to go. The only limitation is | that you have to be connected to the internet in order to use it. | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 6:51 PM | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Infuriating JAWS problem with BBC website! | | | > Yes Peter I know this, perhaps my message was unclear, I was saying that I | > stopped buying an SMA because it appeared that each upgrade broke more | > than | > it fixed, and what it did fix was more about Braille than speech, and I | > don't use Braille, so the SMA was of little value, that's why I'm still | > with | > JFW 6.2. The dreaded thing is, that one day, I'll be forced in to Vista, | > and | > will have to then upgrade JFW. I even think that I'd have to upgrade if I | > want to use IE7, which it looks as if future Windows updates will force me | > to install! | > | > I'm not sure what the cost of upgrading from JFW 6.2 to version 9 would | > be, | > but I bet it's well on the way to buying Window Eyes, which I think I | > might | > do, if it wasn't for the steep learning curve! I don't feel I've got the | > energy to go through all that learning, I remember how frustrating it was | > learning JFW, it's not something I'm keen to repeat! - | > | > Andy | > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Peter Logue" <plsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:55 PM | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Infuriating JAWS problem with BBC website! | > | > | > | Andy wrote: | > | I was paying for Braille upgrades which I never use! - | > | Hi Andy, | > | Whither you use an upgrade or not, you will still use your SMA. | > | Like if you had Jaws 7.1 and skipped version 8 and waited for version 9. | > | Your SMA for version 8 will have been used. | > | | > | Peter Logue | > | | > | | > | | > | -----Original Message----- | > | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf | > Of | > | Andy Collins | > | Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 4:57 PM | > | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Infuriating JAWS problem with BBC website! | > | | > | Jackie - This is why I stopped paying for an SMA, because I was finding | > that | > | more things were not working as well as they previously had, and it felt | > as | > | if I was paying for Braille upgrades which I never use! - | > | | > | Andy | > | ----- Original Message ----- | > | From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx> | > | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:49 PM | > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Infuriating JAWS problem with BBC website! | > | | > | | > || Yes Peter, thanks very much for that. But why does it do this | > ordinarily | > || though? How come you pay for an SMA, only to find you need to revert | > to | > a | > || previous version when you need to do something I would consider to be | > || reasonably straightforward? | > || | > || It actually crashed the machine, so I lost what I'd had open, I | > couldn't | > | do | > || anything. | > || | > || Thanks indeed though. | > || | > || Jackie | > || | > || Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx | > || Skype Name: Cairnsplace | > || ----- Original Message ----- | > || From: "Peter Logue" <plsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > || To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > || Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:38 PM | > || Subject: [access-uk] Re: Infuriating JAWS problem with BBC website! | > || | > || | > || > Jackie, | > || > Just as a quick fix for the moment, since its players names you are | > | trying | > || > to grab, why not invoke the Jaws virtual window and take it from | > there? | > || > Insert plus control plus W. | > || > | > || > Peter Logue | > || > | > || > | > || > | > || > | > || > | > || > -----Original Message----- | > || > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On | > Behalf | > || > Of | > || > Jackie Cairns | > || > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:34 PM | > || > To: Access UK Mailing List | > || > Subject: [access-uk] Infuriating JAWS problem with BBC website! | > || > | > || > Hi All | > || > | > || > I'm fizzing, and I mean really hopping mad with frustration, so | > please | > || > could | > || > someone tell me if the following problem is me going balmy, or is it | > || > really | > || > JAWS 9.0.whatever? | > || > | > || > When I go onto a portion of the BBC website and copy something to the | > || > clipboard to paste into a Microsoft Word document, JAWS is behaving | > | really | > || > strangely. It either hangs, or doesn't paste the information from | > the | > || > clipboard at all into the document. It does it now and then, but | > more | > || > often | > || > than not just won't paste. | > || > | > || > Ian came across this with the text relating to Dale Winton's Pick of | > the | > || > Pops show on the Radio 2 portion of the BBC site. He told me about | > it, | > || > but | > || > it's only now that I'm trying to do it myself on the tennis section | > of | > | the | > || > same site that I'm able to replicate it. | > || > | > || > I'm actually trying to compile a report of a tennis match for an | > || > assignment | > || > for my Sports Journalism course, and because I can't spell a lot of | > | these | > || > players' names by heart, I was copying their correct spelling from | > the | > || > site | > || > into my document. But oh no! I can't do it, and have to keep | > swapping | > || > between the site and the report I have open to type them in by hand. | > || > | > || > I'm doing this using Vista Home Premium, JAWS 9.0.whatever, and | > | Microsoft | > || > Word Professional 2003. Ian has already come across this problem | > using | > || > the | > || > same version of JAWS with XP Home and Microsoft Word Professional | > 2003. | > || > | > || > Frankly it is driving me mad, and if something is wrong with JAWS | > that | > | it | > || > doesn't allow you to copy and paste from the BBC site using version | > 9.0, | > || > and | > || > you have to revert to a previous version, then that's bloody | > ridiculous. | > || > | > || > Ian says he had the same problem in Amazon the other night, when he | > | tried | > || > to | > || > paste some information about an album into a file to save. He says | > he | > | has | > || > to keep going back to JAWS 8.whatever to do what he needs to. God I | > am | > | so | > || > angry now in frustration because this is slowing me up no end. | > || > | > || > Any confirmation would be useful please as this is a really serious | > | issue | > || > if | > || > it is down to JAWS. | > || > | > || > Many thanks. | > || > | > || > Jackie | > || > | > || > | > || > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | > || > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | > || > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | > || > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > || > ** and in the Subject line type | > || > ** unsubscribe | > || > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | > || > ** immediately-following link:- | > || > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | > || > ** or send a message, to | > || > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | > || > | > || | > || ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | > || ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | > || ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | > || ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > || ** and in the Subject line type | > || ** unsubscribe | > || ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | > || ** immediately-following link:- | > || ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | > || ** or send a message, to | > || ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | > || | > || | > || -- | > || This email has been verified as Virus free. | > || Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net | > | | > | ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | > | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | > | ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | > | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > | ** and in the Subject line type | > | ** unsubscribe | > | ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | > | ** immediately-following link:- | > | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | > | ** or send a message, to | > | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | > | | > | | > | | > | ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | > | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | > | ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | > | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > | ** and in the Subject line type | > | ** unsubscribe | > | ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | > | ** immediately-following link:- | > | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | > | ** or send a message, to | > | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | > | | > | | > | -- | > | This email has been verified as Virus free. | > | Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net | > | > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > ** and in the Subject line type | > ** unsubscribe | > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | > ** immediately-following link:- | > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | > ** or send a message, to | > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | > | > | | | Get your FREE SECURE email account from http://www.topmail.co.uk | ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | ** and in the Subject line type | ** unsubscribe | ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | ** immediately-following link:- | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | ** or send a message, to | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | | | -- | This email has been verified as Virus free. | Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq