Hi Tony, No, Window-Eyes is not free, but you can download the 40 minute demo. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of tony sweeney Sent: Thursday 5 March 2009 16:06 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement Hi Steve, That is a screen reader for non-vision people? Is it free? Thanks Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:50 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement > Hi Tony, > > Window-Eyes does. > > All the best > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > tony sweeney > Sent: Thursday 5 March 2009 12:52 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement > > Hi Amro, & All, > > Thanks for that. > > Now do you know if those other screen readers have the faacility as in > Jaws > > whereby you can route Jaws to PC? > > I NEED THAT FACILITY TO BE ABLE TO ctivate my 3 mobile broadband as > discussed in an earlier thread. > > TonyA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:27 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement > > >> Oh sorry, Tony, I missed the earlier message you speak of... >> >> Well, in this case, you can run either Jaws10 or Window Eyes in the 40 >> minute mode. Another suggestion is SAToGo; you need to be connected to >> the > >> internet to use this one. Go to satogo.com and follow the spoken >> instructions. NVDA is certainly a good alternative screen reader too. >> >> I missed the earlier thread so hope I'm not just repeating something you >> already know. >> >> Cheers, >> Amro >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "tony sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:53 AM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement >> >> >>> Hi Amro, >>> >>> Don't know did you see my original email to the list on the subject of a >>> temporary replacement for Jaws! >>> >>> I will be getting Jaws 10 in the next couple of weeks but need something >>> screenreader-wise to tide me over. >>> >>> I can post the list on another occasion with the problems I'm having >>> with > >>> Jaws 8! >>> >>> Someone off list suggested NVDA which might do for now. >>> >>> A peculiar thing happened that I somehow activated another voice whilst >>> on Jaws so when I unloaded Jaws the other cvoice went also! >>> >>> Now I don't know if it was another jaws voice but the two were reading >>> an > >>> email I was ron both together. >>> >>> The voice sounds like what you would hear on a mobile phone reading >>> emails; not. >>> >>> As far as I remember I have only NVDA installed as another screen >>> reader! >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Tony >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:36 PM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement >>> >>> >>>> Hi there Tony, >>>> >>>> What's the problem? Why are you looking for Jaws replacement? Other >>>> than > >>>> me being nosy *Smile* it'll help us giving a good advice if we know the >>>> reason... >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Amro >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Tony Sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:53 PM >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement >>>> >>>> >>>>> Eleanor, >>>>> >>>>> Now with your great influnce, and a good friend to us, could you have >>>>> some >>>>> people answer my query on a temp replacement for now for jaws! >>>>> >>>>> Kindest of regards >>>>> >>>>> Tony >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:15 PM >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank you >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> That is where I saw it Tony. >>>>>> >>>>>> Eleanor >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "tony sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:08 PM >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank >>>>>> you >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > Hi Eleanor, >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Couldn't agree more! >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I took the liberty of forwarding it to another list I'm on wich is >>>>>> > in >>>>>> > Ireland! >>>>>> > >>>>>> > More please! >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Thanks >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Tony >>>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> > From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:01 PM >>>>>> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank >>>>>> > you >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> This was excellent George. Look forward to another lesson from >>>>>> >> you. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Eleanor >>>>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> >> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:11 PM >>>>>> >> Subject: [access-uk] Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank you >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> Note I've changed the Subject line. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> "Google is very often your friend.". I could not agree with you >>>>>> >>> more >>>>>> >>> here, Steve. It is well worth spending time learning about how >>>>>> >>> to > >>>>>> >>> use >>>>> a >>>>>> >>> search >>>>>> >>> engine like this. So here are some very, very basic tips. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Let's say you are looking for something about Louise Braille - >>>>>> >>> his >>>>>> >>> birthday perhaps. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> If you simply type in say >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Louis Braille >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> You will get around 580,000 hits. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> If you type in >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Louis Braille +birthday >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Note the use of the + sign in front of "birthday" - this means >>>>>> >>> that >>>>>> >>> your results MUST include that word. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> You will end up with about 26,500 hits. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> So you look at the first few, and discover that there's a 200th >>>>>> >>> birthday celebration going on, and so you want to know more. >>>>>> >>> Type > >>>>>> >>> in >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Louis Braille +Birthday +200 >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> And you are down to about 8,600 hits. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Now lets get really extreme and go for the following: >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> louis Braille +Birthday +200 -UK -France +USA >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Now we've added a minus sign to eliminate any results that have a >>>>>> >>> reference to the UK and France, but include anything referring to >>>>>> >>> the >>>>>> >>> USA. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> And we're down to 1,230 hits. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Are you getting the general idea? >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Now for another trick. One of the items I found above, refers >>>>>> >>> to: >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> tactile communication system for the blind >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> But if I type that in, I get 51,100 hits. 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