[access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement

  • From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 00:44:03 -0000

Hi Tony,

You can go either to http://www.gwmicro.com, or http://www.comproom.co.uk,
and there is a download on our home page.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
tony sweeney
Sent: Saturday 7 March 2009 13:42
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement

Hi Steve,

Thank you for clarification!

Do you have their url handy?

Cheers

Tony
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 11:32 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement


> Hi Tony,
>
> No, Window-Eyes is not free, but you can download the 40 minute demo.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
> Of
> tony sweeney
> Sent: Thursday 5 March 2009 16:06
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> That is a screen reader for non-vision people?
>
> Is it free?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tony
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:50 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
>
>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> Window-Eyes does.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> tony sweeney
>> Sent: Thursday 5 March 2009 12:52
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
>>
>> Hi Amro, & All,
>>
>> Thanks for that.
>>
>> Now do you know if those other screen readers  have the faacility as in
>> Jaws
>>
>> whereby you can route Jaws to PC?
>>
>> I NEED THAT FACILITY TO BE ABLE TO  ctivate my 3 mobile broadband as
>> discussed in an earlier thread.
>>
>> TonyA
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:27 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
>>
>>
>>> Oh sorry, Tony, I missed the earlier message you speak of...
>>>
>>> Well, in this case, you can run either Jaws10 or Window Eyes in the 40
>>> minute mode. Another suggestion is SAToGo; you need to be connected to
>>> the
>>
>>> internet to use this one. Go to satogo.com and follow the spoken
>>> instructions. NVDA is certainly a good alternative screen reader too.
>>>
>>> I missed the earlier thread so hope I'm not just repeating something you
>>> already know.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Amro
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "tony sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:53 AM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Amro,
>>>>
>>>> Don't know did you see my original email to the list on the subject of 
>>>> a
>>>> temporary replacement for Jaws!
>>>>
>>>> I will be getting Jaws 10 in the next couple of weeks but need 
>>>> something
>>>> screenreader-wise to tide me over.
>>>>
>>>> I can post the list on another occasion with the problems I'm having
>>>> with
>>
>>>> Jaws 8!
>>>>
>>>> Someone off list suggested NVDA which might do for now.
>>>>
>>>> A peculiar thing happened that I somehow activated another voice whilst
>>>> on Jaws so when I unloaded Jaws the other cvoice went also!
>>>>
>>>> Now I don't know if it was another jaws voice but the two were reading
>>>> an
>>
>>>> email I was ron both together.
>>>>
>>>> The voice sounds like what you would hear on a mobile phone reading
>>>> emails; not.
>>>>
>>>> As far as I remember I have only NVDA installed as another screen
>>>> reader!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Tony
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:36 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi there Tony,
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the problem? Why are you looking for Jaws replacement? Other
>>>>> than
>>
>>>>> me being nosy *Smile* it'll help us giving a good advice if we know 
>>>>> the
>>>>> reason...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Amro
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Tony Sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:53 PM
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Eleanor,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now with your great influnce, and a good friend to us, could you have
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> people answer my query on a temp replacement for now for jaws!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kindest of regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tony
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:15 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is where I saw it Tony.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eleanor
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "tony sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:08 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Hi Eleanor,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Couldn't agree more!
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I took the liberty of forwarding it to another list I'm on wich is
>>>>>>> > in
>>>>>>> > Ireland!
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > More please!
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Thanks
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Tony
>>>>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> > From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:01 PM
>>>>>>> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank
>>>>>>> > you
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> This was excellent George.  Look forward to another lesson from
>>>>>>> >> you.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Eleanor
>>>>>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> >> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:11 PM
>>>>>>> >> Subject: [access-uk] Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank 
>>>>>>> >> you
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>> Note I've changed the Subject line.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> "Google is very often your friend.".  I could not agree with you
>>>>>>> >>> more
>>>>>>> >>> here, Steve.  It is well worth spending time learning about how
>>>>>>> >>> to
>>
>>>>>>> >>> use
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> >>> search
>>>>>>> >>> engine like this. So here are some very, very basic tips.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Let's say you are looking for something about Louise Braille -
>>>>>>> >>> his
>>>>>>> >>> birthday perhaps.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> If you simply type in say
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Louis Braille
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> You will get around 580,000 hits.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> If you type in
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Louis Braille +birthday
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Note the use of the + sign in front of "birthday" - this means
>>>>>>> >>> that
>>>>>>> >>> your results MUST include that word.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> You will end up with about 26,500 hits.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> So you look at the first few, and discover that there's a 200th
>>>>>>> >>> birthday celebration going on, and so you want to know more.
>>>>>>> >>> Type
>>
>>>>>>> >>> in
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Louis Braille +Birthday +200
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> And you are down to about 8,600 hits.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Now lets get really extreme and go for the following:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> louis Braille +Birthday +200 -UK -France +USA
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Now we've added a minus sign to eliminate any results that have 
>>>>>>> >>> a
>>>>>>> >>> reference to the UK and France, but include anything referring 
>>>>>>> >>> to
>>>>>>> >>> the
>>>>>>> >>> USA.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> And we're down to 1,230 hits.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Are you getting the general idea?
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Now for another trick.  One of the items I found above, refers
>>>>>>> >>> to:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> tactile communication system for the blind
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> But if I type that in, I get 51,100 hits.  BUT, if I enclose it
>>>>>>> >>> in
>>>>>>> >>> quotes as follows:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> "tactile communication system for the blind"
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> We are down to just 9 hits, because the search is looking for an
>>>>>>> >>> exact
>>>>>>> >>> match.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> I'm no expert at all this searching, but just those few basic
>>>>>>> >>> tips
>>
>>>>>>> >>> can
>>>>>>> >>> help greatly when you are looking for something in the early
>>>>>>> >>> hours
>>
>>>>>>> >>> of
>>>>>>> >>> the morning when few others are on the lists.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> It also makes searching fun, and indeed can be quite addictive.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> George.
>>>>>>> >>>
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