Hi Ibrahim, I agree about the lack of phone support. It should now at least support the new FP2 phones, such as the N79, N85, and the excellent N86 with its 8MP camera. I guess they'll get there, but I hope it opens up to more phones, even if results are compromised a bit. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu Sent: Saturday 27 June 2009 14:56 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: KNFB Mobile Demo Hi Steve. I have two criticisms of KNFB reader that in my view will not be putting it on my wishlist. Firstly. the price as always *smile*, it has to be the most expensive symbian application there is; However, my main gripe is the extremely limited number of phones you can use it with. Since in my view the N82 looks like something out of a fisher price catalog, probably under the title My First Mobile and the 6220 classic doesn't have wireless, neither phone appeals. All the best, Ibrahim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 12:28 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: KNFB Mobile Demo > Hi Eleanor, > > This is one of my criticisms of KNFB Reader, and that is there is no 30 > day > demo. There really should be considering the cost of it. > > I hope Jackie or someone at S and S will pass that on. There is after all, > demos of Talks, and because KNFB is harder to use until you learn how to > align the camera, it is even more important that they should let you have > a > demo. > > All the best > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > ELEANOR BURKE > Sent: Saturday 27 June 2009 10:51 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: KNFB Mobile Demo > > Thanks Jackie. I must do that either sight village or a demo from > someone. > Only thing is then I will want one!!! Smile. > > Eleanor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:38 AM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: KNFB Mobile Demo > > >> Hi Eleanor >> >> The K-NFB Reader software is, indeed, the product which goes on the N82 >> or > >> 6220 Classic. >> >> Sight Village is being held in Birmingham between 14 and 16 July, >> inclusive. There may well be a Sight Village London later in the year. >> >> If, however, you would like a demo, then just call the office and someone >> will help you, and answer any questions you have. >> >> >> Jackie Cairns >> Braille Specialist >> Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sight and Sound Technology Ltd >> Welton House North Wing >> Summerhouse Road >> Moulton Park >> Northampton >> NN3 6WD >> Telephone: 01604 798024 >> Fax: 01604 798090 >> Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >> Of ELEANOR BURKE >> Sent: 27 June 2009 10:23 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] KNFB Mobile Demo >> >> Hi Jackie >> Is this KNFB reader the one people use with mobile phones? I woujld love >> to have a demo. Remind me please if you do not mind, when and where is >> Sight Village? Will it be in london this year also? >> >> Eleanor >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:14 AM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TIME FOR A RANT ... >> >> >>>I would just like to say that, as an end user for many years of assistive >>>technology, I care passionately about customer care and support. Much >>>of >>>the equipment we buy costs a lot of money, and it is important to know if >>>a >>>particular piece of kit is right for you. >>> >>> All I can say, without advertising, is that if anyone requires a >>> demonstration of the products we sell, you contact the office and ask >>> for >>> one. We try to offer no-obligation demonstrations throughout the UK. >>> Admittedly, there are some far-flung places where going to demo a piece >>> of >>> equipment can be costly, and we do try to make every effort to >>> accommodate >>> such a scenario. >>> >>> In my role, I look after all the Braille products and K-NFB Reader >>> mobile. >>> I have met so many people in the last year, and been able to put voices >>> to >>> the names I have conversed with through Email over several years of >>> being >>> on these lists. It's the customer focus and ensuring that a person gets >>> what they want out of technology that makes my job so worthwhile and >>> rewarding. >>> >>> I'm sorry Carol that you have had an unfortunate experience. >>> >>> >>> Jackie Cairns >>> Braille Specialist >>> Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Sight and Sound Technology Ltd >>> Welton House North Wing >>> Summerhouse Road >>> Moulton Park >>> Northampton >>> NN3 6WD >>> Telephone: 01604 798024 >>> Fax: 01604 798090 >>> Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >>> Of roger south >>> Sent: 24 June 2009 15:43 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: TIME FOR A RANT ... >>> >>> Hi Carol >>> >>> You have my sympathy as I've been down that street as well. Several >>> years >>> ago I wanted to buy a portable book reader and the one to have was the >>> Road Runner. I have a severe hearing loss and therefore hear mostly >>> electronically. This made me wary as to whether it would be suitable for >>> me. >>> I phoned the dealer and was told the price etc. I explained my >>> difficulty >>> and fears so would I be able to return it if I needed to. In no >>> circumstances I was told as the machine would be second hand. If it was >>> unsuitable I'd have to find a buyer to purchase it off me. What he >>> didn't >>> realise and was not interested in listening to was that only the actual >>> machine would be used briefly as I would have used my own batteries out >>> of >>> courtesy and I never use head-phones ever as they are of no use to me. >>> My >>> own induction loop would have been plugged in instead. >>> >>> Another list member agreed to meet me and allow me to try his. It >>> transpired I was unable to get on with it and never did purchase one. >>> But >>> the dealer in question, due to his short sightedness and rude behaviour >>> has lost a potential customer for life. I would wait for hell to freeze >>> over before I bought even a box of matches from him in the future. >>> >>> Rger >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: "Access UK Mailing List" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:10 AM >>> Subject: [access-uk] TIME FOR A RANT ... >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I don't exactly apologise for this post and I'll try to keep it brief! >>> >>> I've just written about my recent experience when visiting the RNIB shop >>> at >>> Judd Street for the first time a few weeks back ... >>> >>> (I won't repeat here what I wrote there ...) >>> >>> My quest to get a proper indepth demonstration of the Plextalk Pocket >>> has >>> been exceedingly difficult ... and I've now decided to give it up. >>> >>> Not only was I unable to get anything like a demonstration at the RNIB, >>> but >>> I have declined to purchase the "Infotech" article. This was the last >>> nail >>> in the coffin for me! I was told this would cost me £10 as I'm not a >>> regular subscriber to "Infotech" and you can no longer purchase >>> individual >>> articles at a reasonable rate. I think £10 is too steep and, despite my >>> writing both Brian and Terry at T&T, I heard nothing from them. >>> >>> Well, that's just too bad! It seems my quest for a recorder I'll really >>> like and get on with is just not to be! >>> >>> Surely, it ought to be easier than this to get proper demonstrations and >>> a >>> working knowledge of this high tech stuff for which we have to pay >>> fairly >>> high prices anyway ... >>> >>> OK - rant over! >>> >>> -- >>> Carol >>> carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>> ** or send a message, to >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>> >>> >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** 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