[access-uk] Re: New voices for the next apple operating system
- From: <Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 12:02:23 +0100
Hello William,
I was just about to write back asking the same question.
Meanwhile, unless I missed it in the tsunami of messages about other
things, can I take it nobody knows who the actresses were who provided
the original voices for Serena and her cyber-friend? If anyone did give
an answer to my original question my apologies, but I missed it. I'm not
just writing out of curiosity.
Regards,
Clive
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of william lomas
Sent: 19 May 2011 11:47
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New voices for the next apple operating system
why do people not change the subject lines?
what does this have to do with the voices?
On 19 May 2011, at 11:34, Chris Moore wrote:
> You can use Apple's iWork which is fairly accessible. You can use
free applications, Bean for word processing and Tables for spreadsheet
stuff. The built in Text editor on the Mac is actually very good too,
much better than WordPad for Windows. Hopefully if and when iWork 11 or
12 comes out there will be an even more accessible solution. Office for
Mac still contains old 32 bit C++ code, it will have to go 64 bit in the
next release, this may improve things slightly, but judging by Outlook
for the Mac which is 64 bit I doubt things will improve unless you
contact Microsoft and request this.
>
> For now like today, I am sitting here with my work laptop which is
Windows and running Microsoft Office and using my Mac for non related
work stuff. The Mac is great, and I love it for email and surfing the
web and listening to music, but for the blind community it currently
lags behind our Windows cousin when it comes to productivity in my case
and as for web design stuff like Dreamweaver, then forget it.
>
> Chris
> On 19 May 2011, at 10:07, ANDY COLLINS wrote:
>
>> Hi Jackie - this is useful feedback, thanks. So, if as you say,
Office doesn't cut it on the Mac, what are the word
processing/spreadsheet options for a blind user of the Mac?
>>
>> Andy
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns"
>> <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 9:27 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New voices for the next apple operating
>> system
>>
>>
>>> Well Andy, I still use JAWS primarily because I'm used to it, sort
>>> of in a comfort zone if you like. I don't like Freedom Scientific,
>>> I think everybody knows that. I hate the way they operate, but
>>> that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. I hope the day comes when
>>> Microsoft, for all its faults and flaws, will do as Apple have, and
>>> bring out a built-in screen reader. And the reason? Because
>>> Apple's operating system works with VoiceOver. You don't have to
>>> buy scripts or add-ons, and when the software has an upgrade, so
>>> does VoiceOver, and it works with everything on the Mac that is part
>>> of that operating system. That is not to say that VoiceOver works
>>> with everything you can buy for the Mac, and therein is the
difference. There is software out there that doesn't work with
VoiceOver.
>>>
>>> It is also a steep learning curve, but I now have an iMac, and I
>>> like leaving Windows for a bit to learn something on it. I also
>>> don't have iTunes on my PC, but use it on the Mac, and have my music
>>> collection on it so I can transfer what I want to my iPod Nano and
>>> the iTouch. The Alex voice on the Mac is very good too.
>>>
>>> I don't think I would ever swap my PC for the Mac full-time, I don't
>>> feel confident enough to do that, and there are apps on the PC that
>>> don't cut it on the Mac like Office. But to play with and learn,
>>> it's an interesting concept.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Jackie Cairns
>>> J&M Work-Ability
>>>
>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> www.work-ability.co.uk
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf Of ANDY COLLINS
>>> Sent: 18 May 2011 16:59
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New voices for the next apple operating
>>> system
>>>
>>> Well you know Jackie, I've been considering a mac for when the time
>>> comes to buy a new laptop, if I haven't gone the IPad route by then.
>>>
>>> I guess there's quite a steep learning curve if going from Windows
>>> to Mac, but any improvement over JAWS and eloquence has to be a big
>>> plus for me -
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:27 AM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New voices for the next apple operating
>>> system
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yep Andy with you completely, and they are slower on a device too.
>>>> I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole unless they are built into
>>>> something that doesn't allow you to change them. Alex on the Mac
>>>> is very good quality. You even hear him take breaths when he is
>>>> reading. It's personal preference, but I agree those voices are
>>>> dreadful, apart from Sangita, who is really quite realistic in her
>>>> own way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>> J&M Work-Ability
>>>>
>>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> www.work-ability.co.uk
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf Of ANDY COLLINS
>>>> Sent: 17 May 2011 13:51
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New voices for the next apple operating
>>>> system
>>>>
>>>> Well, I hope, but doubt that they would sound better under Voice
>>>> Over. I hate them. Still too mechanical. Why do these voices always
>>>> sound as though they're gargling as they speak? I'd hoped by now
>>>> we'd be having a more naturally flowing voice -
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Keen
>>>> <mailto:gordonkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:01 AM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] New voices for the next apple operating system
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>> Thought some of you might want a listen to these, what do you think
>>>> of them...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>> Here are samples of a couple of the new voices in Lion which have
>>>> been doing the rounds. These aren't generated through Apple's
>>>> speech engine, they're the same voices used by another service so
>>>> the samples are generated from that. They may or may not sound
>>>> better when used in
>>>> VoiceOver:
>>>>
>>>> English American Accent - Samantha
>>>> <http://nextupdownloads.com/scansamples/samantha.wav>
>>>>
>>>> English British Accent - Serena
>>>> <http://nextupdownloads.com/scansamples/serena.wav>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> G
>>>>
>>>> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.
>>>> Catch the buzz at http://www.bridgerule.co.uk
>>>>
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