Hello Derek, What I'm hering is: If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Best, Clive -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Derek Hornby Sent: 05 January 2015 15:36 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB Right To Read campaign + a Kindle Conundrum Hi Clive I think RNIB needs to set a good example, before it tells other organisations what they should be doing. Just consider what has happened to the Talking News papers service since RNIB took over! So to keep on topic (technical issues) I truly do not understand why changes were made. Change, is fine if it means an improved service, but we have not ended up with improved service, and there was no need to make changes. Regards, Derdek -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 3:19 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB Right To Read campaign + a Kindle Conundrum Hello Ian, Yes, I rember your saying you got Jeremy #Vine to lean on his publishers. It would be somewhat ironic if DB found that his publishers had withheld speech from his own book. More generally, whatever did happen to RNIB right to read? Have they ditched it? I'd hate to think that they have, or that if they have, they've left out-of-date stats and info on their website? I saw figures relating to the percentage of books available to the public at large which were accessible to blind people, followed by a link to the 'Right To Read' campaign which took me to the page that didn't do what it said on the proverbial tin. Best, Clive From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ian Macrae Sent: 05 January 2015 14:28 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB Right To Read campaign + a Kindle Conundrum When I discovered that Jeremy Vine's book had not been speech enabled, I got him to put the arm on the publisher to make it so. Perhaps DB could be persuaded to do the same. I realise that this is a piecemeal approach to a general problem. And, of course, the whole publishers' refusal thing collapses round their ears when a book is bought on the app and read by the device's own TTS. Ian Macrae Commissioning Editor Disability Now Tel +44(20) 7619 7760 Mob +44(07)824 900 855 www.disabilitynow.org.uk <http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/> follow us @disabilitynow <https://twitter.com/DisabilityNow> - Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Disability-Now/448258551882688> and sign up to our eNewsletter here <http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/newsletter-subscription> Disability Now, 6-10 Market Road, London, N7 9PW On 5 Jan 2015, at 14:12, Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hello all, Whatever happened to the RNIB's "Right To Read campaign? If you click on the Right to Read <http://www.rnib.org.uk/campaigning> . Link on their site, it promises you that you'll go to the campaign, but instead you go to a generic campaigns page.which is in itself not a great example of web usability. Here's one to give you food for thought: I went to the Amazon site to find out whether David Blunkett's book was available on Kindle. It is not, but there was a button you could press to "tell the publishers you'd like to read it on Kindle". Click this, and Amazon will tell them you want it on Kindle. However, there's no way to get them to "Tell the publishers you would like to listen to a speech enabled version on Kindle". However, if the publishers decide they don't want you to hear it on Kindle, they can forbid Amazon from speech enabling that version. My "Y O Y O Y" rant is: "Why is it not as easy for a blind person to request a speech enabled kindle version as it is for publishers to insist that the Kindle edition be silent? Any thoughts on the fate of Right To Read or the Kindle anomaly? Best, Clive Clive Lever Diversity and Equality Officer Kent County Council Office: 03000 416388 Email: clive.lever@xxxxxxxxxxx Kent County Council Room G37 Sessions House Maidstone, Kent. 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