[access-uk] Re: RNIB Right To Read campaign + a Kindle Conundrum
- From: Shaun O'Connor <capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 16:44:28 +0000
one wonders if such problems are also affecting educational materials
that the RNIB might be called upon to provide. or , dare i say it, such
materials as may be related to maintaining/finding work, if so then it
raises some awkward questions
On 05/01/2015 16:37, Derek Hornby wrote:
> Hi Clive
> yes I agree.
> My view is that it was not broken.
> I do think it would help if RNIB fully explained why they felt a
> need
> to make changes.
>
> Regards, Derek
>
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> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 3:58 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB Right To Read campaign + a Kindle
> Conundrum
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> Hello Derek,
>
> What I'm hering is: If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
>
> Best,
> Clive
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Derek Hornby
> Sent: 05 January 2015 15:36
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB Right To Read campaign + a Kindle
> Conundrum
>
> Hi Clive
> I think RNIB needs to set a good example, before it tells other
> organisations what they should be doing.
>
> Just consider what has happened to the Talking News papers service
> since RNIB took over!
>
> So to keep on topic (technical issues) I truly do not understand
> why changes were made.
> Change, is fine if it means an improved service, but we have not
> ended up with improved service, and there was no need to make
> changes.
>
> Regards, Derdek
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 3:19 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB Right To Read campaign + a Kindle
> Conundrum
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> Hello Ian,
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> Yes, I rember your saying you got Jeremy #Vine to lean on his
> publishers. It would be somewhat ironic if DB found that his
> publishers had withheld speech from his own book.
>
>
>
> More generally, whatever did happen to RNIB right to read? Have they
> ditched it? I'd hate to think that they have, or that if they have,
> they've left out-of-date stats and info on their website? I saw
> figures relating to the percentage of books available to the public
> at large which were accessible to blind people, followed by a link to
> the 'Right To Read' campaign which took me to the page that didn't do
> what it said on the proverbial tin.
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>
>
> Best,
>
> Clive
>
>
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> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Ian Macrae
> Sent: 05 January 2015 14:28
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB Right To Read campaign + a Kindle
> Conundrum
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> When I discovered that Jeremy Vine's book had not been speech enabled,
> I got him to put the arm on the publisher to make it so. Perhaps DB
> could be persuaded to do the same. I realise that this is a piecemeal
> approach to a general problem. And, of course, the whole publishers'
> refusal thing collapses round their ears when a book is bought on the
> app and read by the device's own TTS.
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> On 5 Jan 2015, at 14:12, Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Hello all,
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>
>
> Whatever happened to the RNIB's "Right To Read campaign?
>
>
>
> If you click on the
>
> Right to Read <http://www.rnib.org.uk/campaigning> .
>
> Link on their site, it promises you that you'll go to the
> campaign, but instead you go to a generic campaigns page.which is in
> itself not a great example of web usability.
>
>
>
> Here's one to give you food for thought:
>
>
>
> I went to the Amazon site to find out whether David Blunkett's
> book was available on Kindle. It is not, but there was a button you
> could press to "tell the publishers you'd like to read it on Kindle".
> Click this, and Amazon will tell them you want it on Kindle. However,
> there's no way to get them to "Tell the publishers you would like to
> listen to a speech enabled version on Kindle". However, if the
> publishers decide they don't want you to hear it on Kindle, they can
> forbid Amazon from speech enabling that version. My "Y O Y O Y" rant
> is:
>
> "Why is it not as easy for a blind person to request a speech
> enabled kindle version as it is for publishers to insist that the
> Kindle edition be silent?
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> Any thoughts on the fate of Right To Read or the Kindle
> anomaly?
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> Best,
>
> Clive
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> Clive Lever
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