[access-uk] Re: ReOutlook Express targets:
- From: Andy Collins <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:07:58 +0000
Oh dear! not a dreaded reinstallation of XP; don't know how to do a repair for
OE, and
can't upgrade for version 6 as the latest version of JFW i have is only 6!
Can you prepare me in any way with some suggestions of what I need to do ahead
of
reinstalling XP, I might be able to get sighted help to do the install, but not
sure
about setting during installation for JAWS etc.
Many thanks for all the help
-
Andy
On Sun Jan 14 20:53 , 'Kevin Lloyd' <kevin.lloyd3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> sent:
>Hi Andy.
>
>Pressing enter on the MSINM.EXE file should definitely have opened outlook
>express. Unless you can get outlook express to open in that way then no
>shortcut is going to help matters unfortunately.
>
>I can only suggest a repair or upgrade of outlook express or a
>reinstallation of XP to resolve this.
>
>Regards.
>
>Kevin
>E-mail: kevin.lloyd3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Andy Collins" Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 8:38 PM
>Subject: [access-uk] Re: ReOutlook Express targets:
>
>
>> Kevin, I did as you suggested, but still not there yet!
>>
>> The problem seems to be this msimn.exe application; when I hit enter on it
>> just to
>> see if it will open, I get the two note warning tone, lower note followed
>> by higher
>> pitched note, which I associate with a warning message, only in this case,
>> no actual
>> message comes up.
>>
>> Also, if I follow the path:
>> Windows explorer, c:\documents and settings\Andy\start menu\programmes,
>> there are 17
>> items under programmes, non of which is Outlook express. However, if I
>> take a
>> slightly different path:
>>
>> Windows explorer c:\programme files\Outlook Express, shows up, and hitting
>> tab once,
>> puts me in that list of about a dozen items, the first of which is the
>> msimn.exe
>> file. It was from here that I did alt f, clicked on short cut, and renamed
>> the file
>> from msimn.exe to Outlook Express, then I copied and pasted it on the desk
>> top, and
>> in the programmes folder, where I now have 3 entries for OE. I tried
>> hitting enter
>> on each of these 3 entries, but they all bring up the desk top.
>>
>> Is this making any sense? Have you any more thoughts? I'm sure we're not
>> too far
>> away from fixing this, it just seems that msimn.exe file is my problem,
>> and how to
>> get Outlook Express to point to it, and away from the desk top!
>> -
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On Sun Jan 14 19:05 , 'Kevin Lloyd' kevin.lloyd3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> sent:
>>
>>>Hi Andy.
>>>
>>>Please don't get confused with the term shortcut. It refers to an icon,
>>>if
>>>you prefer to think of it in that way, that would contain the target
>>>address
>>>that you need. What I've outlined for you in those steps is a method for
>>>you to create new shortcuts that will have the correct target information
>>>in
>>>there. When created, you can copy and paste them into your start menu
>>>programs so that you will have an entry in there for outlook express.
>>>
>>>Try following them through step by step and you'll hopefully be sorted.
>>>
>>>Regards.
>>>
>>>Kevin
>>>E-mail: kevin.lloyd3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Andy Collins" Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 1:13 PM
>>>Subject: [access-uk] Re: ReOutlook Express targets:
>>>
>>>
>>>> This is very kind Kevin, but when I go c:\documents and
>>>> settings\andy\start menu\programmes there is no entry for Outlook
>>>> express in there.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is about targets for OE, not short cuts!
>>>> -
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> On Sun Jan 14 10:32 , 'Kevin Lloyd' kevin.lloyd3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> sent:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Andy.
>>>>>
>>>>>1. Start windows explorer using windows key + E and navigate to your
>>>> local
>>>>>drive.
>>>>>2. Locate documents and settings and press enter.
>>>>>3. Locate your user and press enter.
>>>>>4. Locate Start Menu and press enter.
>>>>>5. Locate the Programs folder and press enter. You will now find a
>>>>>shortcut for Outlook Express. Press the delete key to
>>>>>remove it.
>>>>>6. Press back spacerepeatedly to take you back to your desktop.
>>>>>7. Locate the Outlook express shortcut and delete it.
>>>>>8. Locate My Computer and press enter.
>>>>>9. Locate local drive and press enter.
>>>>>10. Locate program files and press enter.
>>>>>11. Locate Outlook Express and press enter.
>>>>>12. The first file in the list of around 12 files should be the
>>>> Outlook
>>>>>Express application called MSINM.EXE. Select this file and press
>>>> alt + F to
>>>>>open the file menu.
>>>>>13. Arrow down until you reach Creat shortcut and press enter.
>>>>>14. You will now have a short cut called Shortcut to MSINM. Rename
>>>> this to
>>>>>Outlook Express and then copy and paste the file into the programs
>>>> folder
>>>>>and desktop where you deleted it from earlier on.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards.
>>>>>Kevin
>>>>>E-mail: kevin.lloyd3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Andy Collins" Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 5:54 PM
>>>>>Subject: [access-uk] Re: ReOutlook Express targets:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Kevin - Yes, I can get to OE the way you said, but don't know
>>>> what
>>>>>> to do in the Icons tab sheet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I click on the Icons button, it says:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look for icons in this file: ystemRoot%\System32\shell32.dll
>>>>>> I don't know why the 'S' is missing off the ystem at the start of
>>>> the
>>>>>> above path to the .dll file!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, when I tab to the next list box it says there are 238 items
>>>>>> in the list and nothing is selected, but JAWS isn't seeing the
>>>> list,
>>>>>> when I arrow down through it, JAWS just says 2 of 238 and 3 of 238
>>>>>> etc, without saying what it is!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure about icons, how to delete them, or what they should
>>>> be
>>>>>> for OE. Think I need hand holding to get this one right!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to be clear, if you can help more; if you go to your start
>>>> menu,
>>>>>> hit p for programmes, and o for Outlook Express, then hit
>>>>>> applications instead of enter, arrow up once to properties and
>>>> enter,
>>>>>> you will probably have an edit box with the path to the msimn.exe
>>>>>> file in it, followed by an edit box with %homedrive%%homepath% [or
>>>>>> something like that in it; These two edits boxes are not visible
>>>> for
>>>>>> me, they use to be, but they got changed some how, and instead of
>>>> the
>>>>>> targets being to the smimn.exe file, and to the %homedrive etc, it
>>>>>> now points to my computer and desk top, and the problem with this
>>>> is
>>>>>> that these targets are no longer edit boxes, the colour of the font
>>>>>> has changed to I think grey, from what somebody told me, and they
>>>>>> can't be clicked on, this is why I need help to somehow find where
>>>> in
>>>>>> the system I can change the targets back from my computer to the
>>>>>> Outlook Express applications file of .msimn.exe etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope that makes some sense; desperately need to fix this one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If all fails, and nobody can help, would reinstalling XP fix the OE
>>>>>> problem?
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>> Thanks -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat Jan 13 14:20 , 'Kevin Lloyd' kevin.lloyd3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> sent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi Andy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've only just come into this thread so please excuse if you've
>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>covered this ground.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If I'm understanding you correctly, your desktop icon for outlook
>>>>>> express is
>>>>>>>pointing elsewhere?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>To launch outlook express so that you can send and receive e-mail,
>>>>>> can you
>>>>>>>not launch from the program menu? If the icon in your program menu
>>>>>> is also
>>>>>>>incorrect, you could launch outlook express by navigating through
>>>>>> program
>>>>>>>files and finding the application there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>To fix the icons, it's probably best to delete those existing
>>>> one's,
>>>>>>>navigate through program files to outlook express, locate the
>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>and then create a new icon from the file menu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Regards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kevin
>>>>>>>E-mail: kevin.lloyd3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Andy Collins" Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 1:25 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: [access-uk] ReOutlook Express targets:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Peter - I think because the short-cut is already pointing to my
>>>>>>>> computer, this won't work, just tried it, and instead of bringing
>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>> the properties sheet for OE, it brings up the one for the task
>>>> bar
>>>>>>>> and start menu! The only way I can get in to properties for OE,
>>>> is
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> highlight it, and hit the applications key which has a properties
>>>>>>>> selection for OE,; there isn't actually a short cut key assigned,
>>>>>>>> that's not my problem, sorry if I've caused confusion, the
>>>> problem
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> the targets which are no longer Outlook Express, but the desk top
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> my computer, and although using the JAWS cursor I can see this,
>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> is no edit box to make changes to the targets. Anyone any more
>>>>>> ideas;
>>>>>>>> I've been trying to use Outlook for now as my email client, but
>>>> it
>>>>>>>> too has a problem in that is says it can't find the wab.dll file,
>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> although I can receive emails in Outlook, I can't send any, still
>>>>>>>> having to use the server's website!
>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>> Of Peter Beasley
>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 January 2007 10:59
>>>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: OOutlook Express short cut
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Highlight outlook express, alt enter for properties, tab to
>>>>>> shortcut
>>>>>>>> key,
>>>>>>>> change it to what you want to use, pab past the ok button to
>>>> apply
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> enter. Tab to the ok button, press spacebar and you are done.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Andy Collins" Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:52 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] OOutlook Express short cut
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all - writing again as I'm not sure I'm seeing all my messages
>>>>>>>> through my server! Of course, this one might have stumped you
>>>> all,
>>>>>>>> but I some how doubt that, usually somebody on here has an answer
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> even the most weird or difficult problems. Maybe this is one for
>>>>>>>> George Bell or Tristram or Simon, or indeed anybody with the
>>>>>>>> expertise beyond myself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do I change what the short cut for Outlook Express is
>>>> pointing
>>>>>>>> too? Under the properties tab for OE, the short cut is pointing
>>>> to
>>>>>> My
>>>>>>>> computer, consequently, every time I hit letter 'O' in the
>>>>>> programmes
>>>>>>>> folder for Outlook Express, My Computer comes up instead of
>>>> Outlook
>>>>>>>> Express. Come on guys, you can sort this for me, I've every
>>>>>>>> confidence.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many thanks -
>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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