[access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer

  • From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 23:03:39 -0000

Hi Ray

Everybody knows what they can and can't afford (hopefully), and must make a decision based on their own circumstances. When there is something out there that really enthuses Ian and I, we discuss whether it's worthwhile saving hard for it, or whether it isn't that important, or even whether to wait to see what develops. In some ways, we can say that both of us will benefit from a piece of access kit as we are in the same boat. Also, holidays aren't a priority for us because we find it difficult to go to strange places without relying on sighted input anyway. And we are both of the mind that the access tech will give us more pleasure long term (most of the time) than a few holiday memories. We don't drink or smoke, which are our choices, but we do spend a lot of time fiddling about with our bits and pieces.

That doesn't justify the cost of access kit, of course, but it helps us to work out what we need, what is important to help us live independently, and whether the financial outlay is worthwhile.

There are times when both of us would sacrifice robotic gadgetry for human voices and sighted assistance at every turn, but that isn't likely to happen, so we just do our best with what we have. If we can afford something, we buy. If not, we just say: "Oh well another day" and move on.

That sums it up for me on this one.

Jackie
Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
Skype Name: Cairnsplace
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:40 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer


Jackie, you do raise a very pertinent question here as to how you
arrive at deciding whether the present portable recognition software
etc is worth it.

I'll own up and say that I'm very fortunate as of now in not really
needing it, but I do hate the injustice of the pricing and the
bleeding dry of people who do need it.  Still what is 'need'?  is it
that difficult when out and about to get things like menus read?  Are
their other situations where you'd see yourself time and time again
using this sort of aid?  Maybe you want to know where the loo is, but
could you wave one of these things around for it to find it for you?
How many instances do you find where no one's about to help?

How about living at home?  What would this sort of portable device
offer over and above a scanner with OCR software?  Sure a few might
chip in and spell this out.  My reason for asking is that surely how
much and when you'd use it must decide whether its a good or rational
use of money that maybe could be used for other things.

I'd say simply sit back and ask yourself these questions and ask
yourself, is it worth it to me now, at this price level?  The only way
suppliers are going to get the message about over pricing is if you
decline to throw so much money their way and refuse to be a milch cow.
That indeed is a choice some will end up making.

Raises interesting questions about the nature of independence too and
whether that means doing everything unaided by human intervvention.
Personally I'd value good human assistance in many instances while out
doing things, and this simply isn't offered me.

Cheers,
Ray.

From Ray
I can be contacted off-list at:
mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
Jackie Cairns
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer


Hi Andy

That is the difficulty with buying anything that is going to bleed you
dry.
You either jump in and then think: "shit I should have waited," or aim
to
buy later, only to be confronted with something bigger, better and
even more
costly.

It's a very tricky one, a subject that will rage forever with no
definitive
answer to be had I'm afraid.

If you don't have access to work, it's a case of either doing the
charity
rounds, living like a recluse until you can afford something - by
which time
the next best thing is out there - or maybe do the Lottery or
something
(smile).

Jackie

Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
Skype Name: Cairnsplace
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:51 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer


Ah! Jackie, I'm not surprised Steve omited to answer this in his
replies
about this gadget <smile> not his fault no doubt, but too expensive
to
justify, and the thing is, with lots of this tech stuff, it never
really
gives value for money, as it will be superseeded in a couple of
years.
It's
tricky as I have always said, to work out when to buy expensive kit,
and
how
long to hold out for something better, being inconvenienced in the
mean
time!

For many, with all this stuff being so expensive, they will only be
able
to
aford to buy once, if at all, so I understand the tendency to hold
off
buying in favour of an upgraded or superior device later down the
line -

Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:36 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer


|I believe Andy that it is £2,700 with training, which is
recommended.
But
| if you insist on going it alone, it is £2,500.
|
| Jackie
|
| Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
| Skype Name: Cairnsplace
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:57 PM
| Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer
|
|
| > Mark - can you post that link please?
| >
| > Also, has anybody yet gained an idea of the cost of this
device -
Steve
| > hasn't come back on this one! -
| >
| > Andy
| > ----- Original Message -----
| > From: "Mark Threadgold" <m.j.threadgold@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > To: "accessuk list" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:23 PM
| > Subject: [access-uk] Sirecogniser dealer
| >
| >
| > |i all.
| > |
| > | I found a review of the sirecogniser by Brian Hartgen done at
sight
| > village.
| > |
| > |
| > | It states the uk distributors are  Micro Link PC.
| > |
| > | This is incorrect.  I contacted Micro Link PC and they never
got
further
| > | than the initial talks with the manufacturers at sight
village.
| > |
| > | Don't know who is the distributer, bight help someone else
avoid
| > contacting
| > | the wrong people.
| > |
| > | Mark Threadgold
| > |
| > | The probability of being watched is directly proportional to
the
| > stupidity
| > | of your act...
| > |

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