Hi RayEverybody knows what they can and can't afford (hopefully), and must make a decision based on their own circumstances. When there is something out there that really enthuses Ian and I, we discuss whether it's worthwhile saving hard for it, or whether it isn't that important, or even whether to wait to see what develops. In some ways, we can say that both of us will benefit from a piece of access kit as we are in the same boat. Also, holidays aren't a priority for us because we find it difficult to go to strange places without relying on sighted input anyway. And we are both of the mind that the access tech will give us more pleasure long term (most of the time) than a few holiday memories. We don't drink or smoke, which are our choices, but we do spend a lot of time fiddling about with our bits and pieces.
That doesn't justify the cost of access kit, of course, but it helps us to work out what we need, what is important to help us live independently, and whether the financial outlay is worthwhile.
There are times when both of us would sacrifice robotic gadgetry for human voices and sighted assistance at every turn, but that isn't likely to happen, so we just do our best with what we have. If we can afford something, we buy. If not, we just say: "Oh well another day" and move on.
That sums it up for me on this one. Jackie Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx Skype Name: Cairnsplace----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:40 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer
Jackie, you do raise a very pertinent question here as to how you arrive at deciding whether the present portable recognition software etc is worth it. I'll own up and say that I'm very fortunate as of now in not really needing it, but I do hate the injustice of the pricing and the bleeding dry of people who do need it. Still what is 'need'? is it that difficult when out and about to get things like menus read? Are their other situations where you'd see yourself time and time again using this sort of aid? Maybe you want to know where the loo is, but could you wave one of these things around for it to find it for you? How many instances do you find where no one's about to help? How about living at home? What would this sort of portable device offer over and above a scanner with OCR software? Sure a few might chip in and spell this out. My reason for asking is that surely how much and when you'd use it must decide whether its a good or rational use of money that maybe could be used for other things. I'd say simply sit back and ask yourself these questions and ask yourself, is it worth it to me now, at this price level? The only way suppliers are going to get the message about over pricing is if you decline to throw so much money their way and refuse to be a milch cow. That indeed is a choice some will end up making. Raises interesting questions about the nature of independence too and whether that means doing everything unaided by human intervvention. Personally I'd value good human assistance in many instances while out doing things, and this simply isn't offered me. Cheers, Ray. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- Jackie Cairns Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer Hi Andy That is the difficulty with buying anything that is going to bleed you dry. You either jump in and then think: "shit I should have waited," or aim to buy later, only to be confronted with something bigger, better and even more costly. It's a very tricky one, a subject that will rage forever with no definitive answer to be had I'm afraid. If you don't have access to work, it's a case of either doing the charity rounds, living like a recluse until you can afford something - by which time the next best thing is out there - or maybe do the Lottery or something (smile). Jackie Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx Skype Name: Cairnsplace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:51 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealerAh! Jackie, I'm not surprised Steve omited to answer this in hisrepliesabout this gadget <smile> not his fault no doubt, but too expensivetojustify, and the thing is, with lots of this tech stuff, it neverreallygives value for money, as it will be superseeded in a couple ofyears.It's tricky as I have always said, to work out when to buy expensive kit,andhow long to hold out for something better, being inconvenienced in themeantime! For many, with all this stuff being so expensive, they will only beableto aford to buy once, if at all, so I understand the tendency to holdoffbuying in favour of an upgraded or superior device later down theline -Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:36 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer |I believe Andy that it is £2,700 with training, which isrecommended.But | if you insist on going it alone, it is £2,500. | | Jackie | | Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx | Skype Name: Cairnsplace | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:57 PM | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sirecogniser dealer | | | > Mark - can you post that link please? | > | > Also, has anybody yet gained an idea of the cost of thisdevice -Steve | > hasn't come back on this one! - | > | > Andy | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Mark Threadgold" <m.j.threadgold@xxxxxxxxxxxx> | > To: "accessuk list" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:23 PM | > Subject: [access-uk] Sirecogniser dealer | > | > | > |i all. | > | | > | I found a review of the sirecogniser by Brian Hartgen done atsight| > village. | > | | > | | > | It states the uk distributors are Micro Link PC. | > | | > | This is incorrect. I contacted Micro Link PC and they nevergotfurther | > | than the initial talks with the manufacturers at sightvillage.| > | | > | Don't know who is the distributer, bight help someone elseavoid| > contacting | > | the wrong people. | > | | > | Mark Threadgold | > | | > | The probability of being watched is directly proportional tothe| > stupidity | > | of your act... | > |** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
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