Hi. I grasped it in a couple of weeks despite my reservations about the platform as I had a bad experience with a tablet which was running an earlier version which was 4.0 and that was down to me not doing my research before purchasing the tablet which was cheap and cheap and chearful won't give you a good experience in any walk of life. I started out with the Samsung Tab 3 and I enjoyed the learning experience and I never at any point fell in to the trap of comparing it to IOS and this is the biggest mistake people make. When people start expecting an Android device to work like an IOS device then you may as well put down the device and go back to IOS as you will struggle to learn Android. I then moved on to the Google Nexus 7 2013 and then felt confident enough to use an Android phone and I then invested in a Samsung Galaxy S4. I also have my iPhone 5S but I use it for apps like BllindSquare. Over in the US the NFB have a app called Near By explorer and I only wish the RNIB would get involved in such a project for VI Android users in the UK as they did with the Sendero Look Around app on the IOS platform. I like the large screen form factor and I also think obtaining such a device is far cheaper than purchasing the iPhone 6 Plus. I think the Youtube app works much better for me on Android as I struggle with it on IOS. Voiceover seems to have focus issues within the Youtube app. I've also discovered that dictation works much better for me on Android as I have far better results. I much prefer Samsung devices to any other device on the Android platform as it gives me the ability to invert colours and you can use triple tap of the home key to toggle Talkback on and off along with other accessibility features. Moving icons is easy and Talkback will announce the row and column that you are moving an icon to just like the iPhone. You don't have to pay an extra £70 to get an extra 16GB of storage as that's what apple will charge you as you can buy 16GB cards for around £10 if you shop around carefully. Android does work and is accessible enough for anyone and just like IOS! It may have bugs. The enphases is more on touch and explore rather than swipe and tap. I have found that this method is far quicker for locating items as swipe and tap reminds me of a blindman looking for something on a floor and eventually he will find it after covering the full area of a room. On 03/11/2014, Tony Sweeney <tonymsweeney@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Steve, > > Could you please let us have that Talkback link to the tutorial? > > You would indeed need assist certainly in getting Talkback enabled, IMHO.! > > Best, > > Tony Sweeney > On 02/11/2014 19:55, Steve Nutt wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> You don't need a sighted person to show you round the screen. That >> would defeat the point of accessibility. The Talkback tutorial is >> very good. >> >> All the best >> >> >> Steve >> >> -- >> >> Computer Room Services >> >> 77 Exeter Close >> >> Stevenage >> >> Hertfordshire >> >> SG1 4PW >> >> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 >> >> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 >> >> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 >> >> Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk <http://www.comproom.co.uk/> >> >> *From:*access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On >> Behalf Of *Tony Sweeney >> *Sent:* 02 November 2014 19:38 >> *To:* access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> *Subject:* [access-uk] Re: Switching from iOS to Android >> >> Hi Carol, >> >> See from the subject line that you may be already an IOS user so if so >> I'd imagine that you'd have no problem doing the jump. >> >> I very recently took the jump for the first time in to the tabblet >> world and bought an Android tablet through the good offices of Mo. >> >> He customised it for me including of course enabling talkback. >> >> You may need a sighted person showing you around the screen >> >> for a start but I'm sure someone could talk you through anyway. >> >> So far with a keyboard I have learnt the Recents in TuneIn, the >> internet radio being the main reason for buyintg the tablet whilst out >> and about. >> >> I have an IT trainer coming in a couple of weeks so am confident of >> getting there with the technology and of course there are a number of >> good podcasts available too. >> >> I'm finding it a bit of a challenge doing all of that swiping/tapping >> thing but practice and patience I guess will get us there. >> >> Best, >> >> Tony Sweeney >> On 02/11/2014 16:51, Carol.Pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> <mailto:Carol.Pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> That's a very informative article, Steve. Thanks for posting. >> >> I do get tempted sometimes but feel that maybe the learning curve >> is a bit too much for me now. If you, or anyone else able, would >> like to conduct some lessons for newbies, I could be interested >> and get myself a reasonable, fairly inexpensive Android and give >> it a try! >> >> Cheers. >> >> Carol P >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> *From:*Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> *To:*access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> ; 'BCAB Discussion List' <mailto:bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> *Sent:*Sunday, November 02, 2014 10:31 AM >> >> *Subject:*[access-uk] Switching from iOS to Android >> >> Hi all, >> >> For those who wanted more info about Android, this is a good >> article to read if you are on an iShiny and considering the jump. >> >> http://inclusiveandroid.com/?q=content/switching-ios-android >> >> All the best >> >> Steve >> >> -- >> >> Computer Room Services >> >> 77 Exeter Close >> >> Stevenage >> >> Hertfordshire >> >> SG1 4PW >> >> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 >> >> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 >> >> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 >> >> Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk >> > > -- You can find me on Twitter @Saq5000 and Skype Saq5000 ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq