Thanks Steve. It's always better to learn another OS instead of brushing it off before giving it a good run out. On 05/11/2014, Steve Nutt <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Saqib, > > This is a very good analysis. Thank you. > > All the best > > Steve > > -- > Computer Room Services > 77 Exeter Close > Stevenage > Hertfordshire > SG1 4PW > Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 > Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 > Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 > Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Saqib Hussain > Sent: 04 November 2014 09:51 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Switching from iOS to Android > > Hi. I grasped it in a couple of weeks despite my reservations about > the platform as I had a bad experience with a tablet which was running > an earlier version which was 4.0 and that was down to me not doing my > research before purchasing the tablet which was cheap and cheap and > chearful won't give you a good experience in any walk of life. I > started out with the Samsung Tab 3 and I enjoyed the learning > experience and I never at any point fell in to the trap of comparing > it to IOS and this is the biggest mistake people make. When people > start expecting an Android device to work like an IOS device then you > may as well put down the device and go back to IOS as you will > struggle to learn Android. I then moved on to the Google Nexus 7 2013 > and then felt confident enough to use an Android phone and I then > invested in a Samsung Galaxy S4. I also have my iPhone 5S but I use it > for apps like BllindSquare. Over in the US the NFB have a app called > Near By explorer and I only wish the RNIB would get involved in such a > project for VI Android users in the UK as they did with the Sendero > Look Around app on the IOS platform. I like the large screen form > factor and I also think obtaining such a device is far cheaper than > purchasing the iPhone 6 Plus. I think the Youtube app works much > better for me on Android as I struggle with it on IOS. Voiceover seems > to have focus issues within the Youtube app. I've also discovered that > dictation works much better for me on Android as I have far better > results. I much prefer Samsung devices to any other device on the > Android platform as it gives me the ability to invert colours and you > can use triple tap of the home key to toggle Talkback on and off along > with other accessibility features. Moving icons is easy and Talkback > will announce the row and column that you are moving an icon to just > like the iPhone. You don't have to pay an extra £70 to get an extra > 16GB of storage as that's what apple will charge you as you can buy > 16GB cards for around £10 if you shop around carefully. Android does > work and is accessible enough for anyone and just like IOS! It may > have bugs. The enphases is more on touch and explore rather than swipe > and tap. I have found that this method is far quicker for locating > items as swipe and tap reminds me of a blindman looking for something > on a floor and eventually he will find it after covering the full area > of a room. > > On 03/11/2014, Tony Sweeney <tonymsweeney@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Steve, >> >> Could you please let us have that Talkback link to the tutorial? >> >> You would indeed need assist certainly in getting Talkback enabled, >> IMHO.! >> >> Best, >> >> Tony Sweeney >> On 02/11/2014 19:55, Steve Nutt wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> You don't need a sighted person to show you round the screen. That >>> would defeat the point of accessibility. The Talkback tutorial is >>> very good. >>> >>> All the best >>> >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Computer Room Services >>> >>> 77 Exeter Close >>> >>> Stevenage >>> >>> Hertfordshire >>> >>> SG1 4PW >>> >>> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 >>> >>> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 >>> >>> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 >>> >>> Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk <http://www.comproom.co.uk/> >>> >>> *From:*access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On >>> Behalf Of *Tony Sweeney >>> *Sent:* 02 November 2014 19:38 >>> *To:* access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> *Subject:* [access-uk] Re: Switching from iOS to Android >>> >>> Hi Carol, >>> >>> See from the subject line that you may be already an IOS user so if so >>> I'd imagine that you'd have no problem doing the jump. >>> >>> I very recently took the jump for the first time in to the tabblet >>> world and bought an Android tablet through the good offices of Mo. >>> >>> He customised it for me including of course enabling talkback. >>> >>> You may need a sighted person showing you around the screen >>> >>> for a start but I'm sure someone could talk you through anyway. >>> >>> So far with a keyboard I have learnt the Recents in TuneIn, the >>> internet radio being the main reason for buyintg the tablet whilst out >>> and about. >>> >>> I have an IT trainer coming in a couple of weeks so am confident of >>> getting there with the technology and of course there are a number of >>> good podcasts available too. >>> >>> I'm finding it a bit of a challenge doing all of that swiping/tapping >>> thing but practice and patience I guess will get us there. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Tony Sweeney >>> On 02/11/2014 16:51, Carol.Pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:Carol.Pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> That's a very informative article, Steve. Thanks for posting. >>> >>> I do get tempted sometimes but feel that maybe the learning curve >>> is a bit too much for me now. If you, or anyone else able, would >>> like to conduct some lessons for newbies, I could be interested >>> and get myself a reasonable, fairly inexpensive Android and give >>> it a try! >>> >>> Cheers. >>> >>> Carol P >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> *From:*Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>> *To:*access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> ; 'BCAB Discussion List' <mailto:bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>> *Sent:*Sunday, November 02, 2014 10:31 AM >>> >>> *Subject:*[access-uk] Switching from iOS to Android >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> For those who wanted more info about Android, this is a good >>> article to read if you are on an iShiny and considering the >>> jump. >>> >>> http://inclusiveandroid.com/?q=content/switching-ios-android >>> >>> All the best >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Computer Room Services >>> >>> 77 Exeter Close >>> >>> Stevenage >>> >>> Hertfordshire >>> >>> SG1 4PW >>> >>> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 >>> >>> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 >>> >>> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 >>> >>> Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk >>> >> >> > > > -- > You can find me on Twitter @Saq5000 and Skype Saq5000 > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > -- You can find me on Twitter @Saq5000 and Skype Saq5000 ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq