Hi Steve Yes I did that, but also updated those stations affected in my Favourites list, and that worked too. Kind regards, Jackie Brown Emails: thebrownsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx jackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Website: www.thebrownsplace.info Twitter: @thebrownsplace Skype: thejackmate -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 17 February 2015 15:07 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Victor Reader Stream: Response from Humanware Hi Jackie, Merely checking for upgrades as I understand it, will update the internal stations list. So go ahead and check for upgrades, even if you have the latest firmware. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Brown Sent: 17 February 2015 10:57 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Victor Reader Stream: Response from Humanware Hi Carol Oh yes, I did that weeks ago. But with people discussing updates HumanWare have very recently made to the station list, I wondered how we could get them if our units are showing the latest software is installed. I thought I had missed something? (smile). Kind regards, Jackie Brown Emails: thebrownsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx jackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Website: www.thebrownsplace.info Twitter: @thebrownsplace Skype: thejackmate -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol.Pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 17 February 2015 10:46 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Victor Reader Stream: Response from Humanware Jackie, My Stream notified me about a month or so ago about the latest upgrade at that time and I just downloaded there and then! It was great! Hopefully any future update will also show up that way! Carol P ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Brown" <jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 10:37 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Victor Reader Stream: Response from Humanware > Hi Pele > > Thanks very much for all the information you supplied in your Email below. > > What I can't quite understand though, and forgive me if I am missing > something here, is how to update the VRS to take account of these > amendments by HumanWare if it is already up-to-date. According to our > software, we both have the latest update, so if HumanWare has made > amendments, how do we get them? > > Kind regards, > > Jackie Brown > Emails: thebrownsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx > jackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Website: www.thebrownsplace.info > Twitter: @thebrownsplace > Skype: thejackmate > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Pele West > Sent: 17 February 2015 09:35 > To: victorstreamuk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Access UK; BCAB Discussion List; > Uk Radio Listeners > Subject: [access-uk] Victor Reader Stream: Response from Humanware > > Hi Everyone > > Apologies for the cross-posting, but I think there has been discussion > about the problems with the new BBC MP3 Shoutcast streams on all these > lists. > > I wrote to Humanware yesterday to find out if they have any plans for > accessing the Audio Factory streams in the future. As you will see > from the conversation below, I am particularly concerned about the > lack of sports commentaries. > > I have edited the e-mails so that they appear in the correct order. > The whole conversation took place yesterday. > > I have also contacted Wireless for the Blind about the Sonata radio > and spoken to the BBC, but have had no response as yet. > > Pele West > > From Pele West to Humanware Technical Support > > Hi > > As you know, the BBC have recently changed their radio streams from > WMA to MP3. The new victor reader stream's playlist has been amended > to cope with this change. I understand from reading various blogs that > this is only a temporary measure and these Shoutcast streams will be deleted as well. > Smartphones and tablets and PCs will be able to use the Audio Factory > streams. > > Unfortunately, the new streams for Radio 5 and Sports Extra do not > allow the BBC to broadcast most sports commentaries. This is rather > sad as I often use my VR stream for this purpose. I am particularly > concerned that we won't be able to hear next season's Cricket County > Championship. > Last year the BBC used their Event Streams to broadcast these matches. > At that time the VR stream could not receive them, but there was an > update in September, just before the end of the season, that meant the > broadcasts were available. > > Do you know if there are any plans to update the VR stream so that it > can receive the Audio Factory streams used by smartphones and tablets? > Will they be available on Ootunes? > > Pele West > > From TomBurton to Pele West > > Hello Pele > > Hope you're keeping well. Thanks for your email. > > I can indeed confirm that our development team have been maintaining > and updating the HumanWare Playlist links to accommodate for the > recent changes to the BBC Radio station links. I am not sure about the > Audio Factory streams, so I will pose your question to the developers > today and I'll let you know what they say. I'll get back to you as > soon as possible on this. > > Kind Regards > Tom > > From Tom Burton to Pele West > Hello Pele > > As mentioned, I asked the developers about this and they came back to > me with an answer, see below where I have copied in the information > that they sent to me: > > > "BBC has indicated that those MP3 links will be available for a year > or two which satisfy us for now. (Actually this is longer than any > links they have used so far). Of course, we will be modifying the list > as needed. We have tried to find detailed technical information about > AudiioFactory without success, so it's hard to know for now how we can > do something different on the Stream. OOtunes is only a data base so > it will not make any Station more accessible (and if it does, it means > they have another link which we can use as well in our list)." > > I hope this information is helpful. To summarise, I think the current > BBC playlist links will be fine for at least a year or two. Audio > Factory is something that will probably become more relevant in time. > > > Kind Regards > > Tom > > From Pele West to Tom Burton > Hi Tom > > Thank you for writing. > > Whilst I appreciate that the BBC MP3 streams will be around for some > time, this does not address the problem of the live sports > commentaries, which are no longer available. Will we just have to do > without them? > > Pele > > > From Tom Burton to Pele West > Hi Pele > > Thanks for your email. For the moment, unfortunately, I think it will > be the case that the live sports commentaries, or any other streams > that use the new Audio Factory format / protocol, will not work on the > Stream. I am sure that once the developers are able to obtain more > technical data about the Audio Factory system, they can then look into > implementing support for the format into the Stream. > Sorry that I can't give a more positive answer at this time. This is > unfortunately one of the limitations of relying on content that is > hosted externally, as is the case with the Stream, as well as other > devices. I shall certainly let you know if I hear of any news in this > area on the Stream. > > > > Kind Regards > Tom > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq