Great. Thanks everyone for the info on this. I'm just working my way through the BC stations now and all are working so far. Carol P ----- Original Message ----- From: David Griffith <daj.griffith@xxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx CC: Date: Tuesday, 17 February 2015 11.44 am Subject: [access-uk] Re: Victor Reader Stream: Response from Humanware > > > What I discovered was that after the Stream update the BBC stations that > I had manually added to my custom playlists and the Favourites playlist > retained the obsolete information and did not work. > > However the default Humanware Playlist versions of the BBC stations > appeared to have been updated and BBC content could be played from that. > > Logically re-submitting a search on the O Tunes database should > presumably also update stations to working versions. > David Griffith > On 17/02/2015 10.37, Jackie Brown wrote: > Hi Pele > > Thanks very much for all the information you supplied in your Email below. > > What I can't quite understand though, and forgive me if I am missing > something here, is how to update the VRS to take account of these amendments > by HumanWare if it is already up-to-date. According to our software, we > both have the latest update, so if HumanWare has made amendments, how do we > get them? > > Kind regards, > > Jackie Brown > Emails: thebrownsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > ,j;ackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx > jackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Website: www.thebrownsplace.info > Twitter: @thebrownsplace > Skype: thejackmate > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Pele West > Sent: 17 February 2015 09.35 > To: victorstreamuk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Access UK; BCAB Discussion List; Uk > Radio Listeners > Subject: [access-uk] Victor Reader Stream: Response from Humanware > > Hi Everyone > > Apologies for the cross-posting, but I think there has been discussion about > the problems with the new BBC MP3 Shoutcast streams on all these lists. > > I wrote to Humanware yesterday to find out if they have any plans for > accessing the Audio Factory streams in the future. As you will see from the > conversation below, I am particularly concerned about the lack of sports > commentaries. > > I have edited the e-mails so that they appear in the correct order. The > whole conversation took place yesterday. > > I have also contacted Wireless for the Blind about the Sonata radio and > spoken to the BBC, but have had no response as yet. > > Pele West > > From Pele West to Humanware Technical Support > > Hi > > As you know, the BBC have recently changed their radio streams from WMA to > MP3. The new victor reader stream's playlist has been amended to cope with > this change. I understand from reading various blogs that this is only a > temporary measure and these Shoutcast streams will be deleted as well. > Smartphones and tablets and PCs will be able to use the Audio Factory > streams. > > Unfortunately, the new streams for Radio 5 and Sports Extra do not allow the > BBC to broadcast most sports commentaries. This is rather sad as I often use > my VR stream for this purpose. I am particularly concerned that we won't be > able to hear next season's Cricket County Championship. > Last year the BBC used their Event Streams to broadcast these matches. > At that time the VR stream could not receive them, but there was an update > in September, just before the end of the season, that meant the broadcasts > were available. > > Do you know if there are any plans to update the VR stream so that it can > receive the Audio Factory streams used by smartphones and tablets? > Will they be available on Ootunes? > > Pele West > > From TomBurton to Pele West > > Hello Pele > > Hope you're keeping well. Thanks for your email. > > I can indeed confirm that our development team have been maintaining and > updating the HumanWare Playlist links to accommodate for the recent changes > to the BBC Radio station links. I am not sure about the Audio Factory > streams, so I will pose your question to the developers today and I'll let > you know what they say. I'll get back to you as soon as possible on this. > > Kind Regards > Tom > > From Tom Burton to Pele West > Hello Pele > > As mentioned, I asked the developers about this and they came back to me > with an answer, see below where I have copied in the information that they > sent to me: > > > "BBC has indicated that those MP3 links will be available for a year or two > which satisfy us for now. (Actually this is longer than any links they have > used so far). Of course, we will be modifying the list as needed. We have > tried to find detailed technical information about AudiioFactory without > success, so it's hard to know for now how we can do something different on > the Stream. OOtunes is only a data base so it will not make any Station more > accessible (and if it does, it means they have another link which we can use > as well in our list)." > > I hope this information is helpful. To summarise, I think the current BBC > playlist links will be fine for at least a year or two. Audio Factory is > something that will probably become more relevant in time. > > > Kind Regards > > Tom > > From Pele West to Tom Burton > Hi Tom > > Thank you for writing. > > Whilst I appreciate that the BBC MP3 streams will be around for some time, > this does not address the problem of the live sports commentaries, which are > no longer available. Will we just have to do without them? > > Pele > > > From Tom Burton to Pele West > Hi Pele > > Thanks for your email. For the moment, unfortunately, I think it will be the > case that the live sports commentaries, or any other streams that use the > new Audio Factory format / protocol, will not work on the Stream. I am sure > that once the developers are able to obtain more technical data about the > Audio Factory system, they can then look into implementing support for the > format into the Stream. > Sorry that I can't give a more positive answer at this time. This is > unfortunately one of the limitations of relying on content that is hosted > externally, as is the case with the Stream, as well as other devices. I > shall certainly let you know if I hear of any news in this area on the > Stream. > > > > Kind Regards > Tom > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq