[access-uk] Re: Victor Reader Stream: Response from Humanware

  • From: carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 17:30:19 +0000

Great. Thanks everyone for the info on this. I'm just working my way through 
the BC stations now and all are working so far.

Carol P


----- Original Message -----
From: David Griffith <daj.griffith@xxxxxxxxx>
To:  access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
CC: 
Date: Tuesday, 17 February 2015 11.44 am
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Victor Reader Stream: Response from Humanware

>
>
> What I discovered was that after the Stream update the BBC stations that 
> I had manually added to my custom playlists and the Favourites playlist  
> retained the obsolete information and did not work.
> 
> However the default Humanware Playlist versions of the BBC stations 
> appeared to have been updated and BBC content could be played from that.
> 
> Logically re-submitting a search on the O Tunes database should
> presumably also update stations to working versions.
> David Griffith
> On 17/02/2015 10.37, Jackie Brown wrote:
> Hi Pele
>
> Thanks very much for all the information you supplied in your Email below.
>
> What I can't quite understand though, and forgive me if I am missing
> something here, is how to update the VRS to take account of these amendments
> by HumanWare if it is already up-to-date.  According to our software, we
> both have the latest update, so if HumanWare has made amendments, how do we
> get them?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jackie Brown
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Pele West
> Sent: 17 February 2015 09.35
> To: victorstreamuk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Access UK; BCAB Discussion List; Uk
> Radio Listeners
> Subject: [access-uk] Victor Reader Stream: Response from Humanware
>
> Hi Everyone
>
> Apologies for the cross-posting, but I think there has been discussion about
> the problems with the new BBC MP3 Shoutcast streams on all these lists.
>
> I wrote to Humanware yesterday to find out if they have any plans for
> accessing the Audio Factory streams in the future. As you will see from the
> conversation below, I am particularly concerned about the lack of sports
> commentaries.
>
> I have edited the e-mails so that they appear in the correct order. The
> whole conversation took place yesterday.
>
> I have also contacted Wireless for the Blind about the Sonata radio and
> spoken to the BBC, but have had no response as yet.
>
> Pele West
>
>  From Pele West to Humanware Technical Support
>
> Hi
>
> As you know, the BBC have recently changed their radio streams from WMA to
> MP3. The new victor reader stream's playlist has been amended to cope with
> this change. I understand from reading various blogs that this is only a
> temporary measure and these Shoutcast streams will be deleted as well.
> Smartphones and tablets and PCs will be able to use the Audio Factory
> streams.
>
> Unfortunately, the new streams for Radio 5 and Sports Extra do not allow the
> BBC to broadcast most sports commentaries. This is rather sad as I often use
> my VR stream for this purpose. I am particularly concerned that we won't be
> able to hear next season's Cricket County Championship.
> Last year the BBC used their Event Streams to broadcast these matches.
> At that time the VR stream could not receive them, but there was an update
> in September, just before the end of the season, that meant the broadcasts
> were available.
>
> Do you know if there are any plans to update the VR stream so that it can
> receive the Audio Factory streams used by smartphones and tablets?
> Will they be available on Ootunes?
>
> Pele West
>
>  From TomBurton to Pele West
>
> Hello Pele
>
> Hope you're keeping well. Thanks for your email.
>
> I can indeed confirm that our development team have been maintaining and
> updating the HumanWare Playlist links to accommodate for the recent changes
> to the BBC Radio station links. I am not sure about the Audio Factory
> streams, so I will pose your question to the developers today and I'll let
> you know what they say. I'll get back to you as soon as possible on this.
>
> Kind Regards
> Tom
>
>  From Tom Burton to Pele West
> Hello Pele
>
> As mentioned, I asked the developers about this and they came back to me
> with an answer, see below where I have copied in the information that they
> sent to me:
>
>
> "BBC has indicated that those MP3 links will be available for a year or two
> which satisfy us for now. (Actually this is longer than any links they have
> used so far). Of course, we will be modifying the list as needed. We have
> tried to find detailed technical information about AudiioFactory without
> success, so it's hard to know for now how we can do something different on
> the Stream. OOtunes is only a data base so it will not make any Station more
> accessible (and if it does, it means they have another link which we can use
> as well in our list)."
>
> I hope this information is helpful. To summarise, I think the current BBC
> playlist links will be fine for at least a year or two. Audio Factory is
> something that will probably become more relevant in time.
>
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Tom
>
>  From Pele West to Tom Burton
> Hi Tom
>
> Thank you for writing.
>
> Whilst I appreciate that the BBC MP3 streams will be around for some time,
> this does not address the problem of the live sports commentaries, which are
> no longer available. Will we just have to do without them?
>
> Pele
>
>
>  From Tom Burton to Pele West
> Hi Pele
>
> Thanks for your email. For the moment, unfortunately, I think it will be the
> case that the live sports commentaries, or any other streams that use the
> new Audio Factory format / protocol, will not work on the Stream. I am sure
> that once the developers are able to obtain more technical data about the
> Audio Factory system, they can then look into implementing support for the
> format into the Stream.
> Sorry that I can't give a more positive answer at this time. This is
> unfortunately one of the limitations of relying on content that is hosted
> externally, as is the case with the Stream, as well as other devices. I
> shall certainly let you know if I hear of any news in this area on the
> Stream.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards
> Tom
>
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