[access-uk] Re: WLAN
- From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:11:38 -0000
Hi George -
Ah! the rj45, is that the socket I will have used when on dial-up, to
connect my PC to the bt phone socket? I've certainly got one of those
<smile> -
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 2:01 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN
| Hi Andy,
|
| The RJ45 looks kind of like a more square version of a UK
| telephone plug. If your PC doesn't have a network
| connection like this, you will have to install one. On
| relatively modern PCs, I'd be surprised if it didn't have
| one on the motherboard. Network expansion cards are not
| expensive - usually under £20. If you don't have one of
| those, you will alternatively have to install a wireless
| network card.
|
| However, it is best practice to try and have one system
| wired to the router. I'll spare the technical reasons for
| just now.
|
| Once you've got the router configured to your desk top,
| setting up the wireless links is not usually too much of a
| problem.
|
| George.
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
| Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 1:44 PM
| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN
|
| HI George -
|
| This helps, thanks. What will the rj45 port feel like on my
| PC? I've got two
| ports I'm not sure about, one feels like it might be for an
| aerial for a TV
| card, the other is round and feels similar to an RCA stereo
| socket.
|
| Also, once the PC is hard wired in this way to the router,
| is it then a
| question of configuring the laptop or the mobile and the
| router so that they
| see and connect wirelessly to one another?
|
| Thanks -
|
| Andy
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 5:32 AM
| Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN
|
|
|| Hi Andy,
||
|| I'm not Tristram, but to answer your questions.
||
|| 1) The network cable is described as an "Ethernet Cable"
| and
|| has RJ45 plugs on each end. One end goes into the router,
|| the other into the RJ45 network port on your PC.
||
|| 2) You can run multiple wireless devices at the same time
|| with a wireless router. There's not usually any physical
|| switch of any kind.
||
|| At home here for example, I have a disk top PC linked to
| my
|| wireless router with an Ethernet cable. My wife and I each
|| have a laptop, and these are connected wirelessly to the
|| router so we can both access the internet at the same
| time.
||
|| George.
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
|| Sent: 08 February 2008 16:57
|| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN
||
|| thanks Tristram - Can I ask some more?
||
|| So, if I understand correctly, an ethernet cable will be
|| require to hard
|| wire the PC to the Netgear router; is the cable for this
| the
|| RJ45 that I've
|| heard of?
||
|| If I want to use more than one device wirelessly, will I
|| need a hub, or a
|| router that has several switches on it? Is it that each
| item
|| on a network
|| needs it's own wireless switch on the router?
||
|| Thanks -
||
|| Andy
|| ----- Original Message -----
|| From: "Tristram Llewellyn"
|| <tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:23 PM
|| Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN
||
||
||| Some answers
|||
||| Q: Does this ethernet cable run from the router to the
|| phone socket, or
||| from
||| the router to my PC?
||| A: There will be a similar lead for attaching the router
|| to the phone
||| socket, but I would recommend you have an Ethernet cable
|| as well which I
||| don't think you will be supplied with the router, I don't
|| remember what
||| happened with mine. You buy pre-made ones from PC-World
|| with lengths to
||| suit most scenarios if there isn't one. I would never
|| personally have
||| wireless as my only link to the network directly or
|| indirectly, wireless
||| can occasionally have innexpliccable splutters and give
| up
|| when you
||| least expect.
|||
||| Q: When you say "a wireless settings section" does this
|| mean that the
||| router
||| will come with a software CD, from which I can change
|| settings, and
||| create
||| this SSID?
||| A: It may come with a CD but you don't need to install
|| anything, your
||| router just connects over Ethernet so just plug it in.
| If
|| there is a CD
||| it will probably be manuals and catalogues.
|||
||| Q: When you say it is built in to the router, how do I
|| access it to
||| create the
||| incription?
||| A: This is where the CD if any comes in handy, otherwise
|| there willl be
||| a quick setup sheet. It will tell you how to log into
| the
|| router.
||| Basically you will load IE or other preferred browser.
|| Then you type in
||| a location for the router, sometimes like 192.168.0.1 and
|| press enter.
||| Routers generally have a default username "admin" and
|| password
||| "password", the quotes are not part of the login details
|| those. You are
||| then logged into a web page whcih you can then navigate
|| and perform
||| tasks on the router. If unfamilier you will have to get
|| your bearings a
||| bit, one of the first things it may offer you is some
| kind
|| of broadband
||| auto-setup wizard so it may be handy to have the details
|| for your
||| broadband provider handily available so you can pop those
|| in and get
||| connected. Then perhaps you can start to think about the
|| wireless and
||| encryption, you wil be able to use your screen reader
|| commands to find
||| the apropriate page on the router to deal with this.
|||
||| Once you have all that gong you can get the laptop or
|| whatever to
||| connect wirelsssly to the router and manage it remotely
|| using that
||| connection (with care) and will have the backup of
|| physical conection.
|||
||| Regards.
|||
||| Tristram Llewellyn
||| tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
||| Technical Support
||| Sight and Sound Technology
|||
||| -----Original Message-----
||| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
||| Of Andy Collins
||| Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 2:58 PM
||| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
||| Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN
|||
||| Thanks Tristram, can I take some of your points and ask a
|| bit more
||| please?
|||
||| You wrote:
|||
||| "| First thing you need to do is log into your new router
|| with an
||| ehternet
|||| cable. That way you get yoour router connected to the
|| internet with
||| the
|||| log in details for your supplier."
|||
||| Does this ethernet cable run from the router to the phone
|| socket, or
||| from
||| the router to my PC?
|||
||| You wrote:
|||
||| "On the Netgears and all similar
|||| routers there will be a "wireless settings" section.
|| Here you will
||| want
|||| to set up the wireless SSID (it is a name that you will
|| need to set
||| all
|||| your wireless adaptors to)."
|||
||| When you say "a wireless settings section" does this mean
|| that the
||| router
||| will come with a software CD, from which I can change
|| settings, and
||| create
||| this SSID?
|||
||| You wrote:
|||
||| "The other thing you should
|||| consider is getting some kind of wireless encryption
|| going, this is
|||| built into your router. There are quite a lot of
| choices
|| but only
||| some
|||| are realistic, WEP is broken thoroughly so the next step
|| up would be
||| WPA
|||| which is secure enough and almost all laptop wireless
|| adaptors do it
|||| these days.
|||
||| When you say it is built in to the router, how do I
| access
|| it to create
||| the
||| incription?
|||
||| Thanks for any further help -
|||
||| Andy
|||
||| ----- Original Message -----
||| From: "Tristram Llewellyn"
|| <tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
||| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
||| Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:59 PM
||| Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN
|||
|||
|||| First thing you need to do is log into your new router
|| with an
||| ehternet
|||| cable. That way you get yoour router connected to the
|| internet with
||| the
|||| log in details for your supplier. On the Netgears and
|| all similar
|||| routers there will be a "wireless settings" section.
|| Here you will
||| want
|||| to set up the wireless SSID (it is a name that you will
|| need to set
||| all
|||| your wireless adaptors to). You could use the default
|| whatever it
|||| happens to be but there is some security risk in leaving
|| it something
|||| obvious like "netgear". I have left mine on the default
|| but then
||| again
|||| I run a full lengh fully randomised key on WPA with uPnP
|| disabled so
|||| with that I judge it to be pretty low risk. The other
|| thing you
||| should
|||| consider is getting some kind of wireless encryption
|| going, this is
|||| built into your router. There are quite a lot of
| choices
|| but only
||| some
|||| are realistic, WEP is broken thoroughly so the next step
|| up would be
||| WPA
|||| which is secure enough and almost all laptop wireless
|| adaptors do it
|||| these days. Usually it is a security passphrase or a
|| string of
||| numbers
|||| and digits, the latter aproach up to 24 digits is good
|| enough. This
|||| will stop your neighbours using your wireless and also
|| keep you safe
|||| from the bad guys, so it is well worth doing.
||||
|||| Once you have done that at the router you get started
|| with the
||| wireless
|||| on the laptop machine. You can set up a normal network
|| connection
||| from
|||| "control panel" and "make new connection", the wizard
|| should have an
|||| option for creating a wireless connection where you will
|| be asked the
|||| relevant details. Another aproach is to open the system
|| tray and see
||| if
|||| there is an "Available wireless networks", open that up
|| and see if
||| your
|||| wireless is broadcasting to you, when you first try to
|| activate it you
|||| will be asked for the wireless key you had set up on the
|| router, after
|||| whcih it will log you in.
||||
|||| Regards.
||||
|||| Tristram Llewellyn
|||| tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
|||| Technical Support
|||| Sight and Sound Technology
||||
|||| -----Original Message-----
|||| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
||| Behalf
|||| Of Andy Collins
|||| Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:15 AM
|||| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
|||| Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN
||||
|||| Thanks Tristram - So, with a wireless router, I take it
| I
|| just plug it
|||| in to
|||| my adapter that goes in to my phone socket, but what do
| I
|| have to do
||| at
|||| the
|||| PC end of things to make the wireless connection?
||||
|||| Thanks -
||||
|||| Andy
|||| ----- Original Message -----
|||| From: "Tristram Llewellyn"
|| <tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|||| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|||| Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:49 AM
|||| Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN
||||
||||
|||||I have two Netgear routers they are perfectly fine.
|| Belkin do some
|||| good
||||| cheap ones as well.
|||||
|||||
||||| Regards.
|||||
||||| Tristram Llewellyn
||||| tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
||||| Technical Support
||||| Sight and Sound Technology
|||||
||||| -----Original Message-----
||||| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
|||| Behalf
||||| Of Andy Collins
||||| Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:25 PM
||||| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
||||| Subject: [access-uk] WLAN
|||||
||||| Hi all
|||||
||||| At the moment, I have a Benitone router connected to my
|| PC by USB;
|||| there
||||| is
||||| nothing on this router that will allow me to connect a
|| wireless
||| point.
|||||
||||| Am I right in thinking then that a Netgear wireless
|| router combined
|||| with
||||| a
||||| switch is a good way to go? Are Netgear good routers?
|||||
||||| Thanks -
|||||
||||| Andy
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