[access-uk] Re: WLAN

  • From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 05:32:15 -0000

Hi Andy,

I'm not Tristram, but to answer your questions.

1) The network cable is described as an "Ethernet Cable" and
has RJ45 plugs on each end. One end goes into the router,
the other into the RJ45 network port on your PC.

2) You can run multiple wireless devices at the same time
with a wireless router. There's not usually any physical
switch of any kind.

At home here for example, I have a disk top PC linked to my
wireless router with an Ethernet cable. My wife and I each
have a laptop, and these are connected wirelessly to the
router so we can both access the internet at the same time.

George.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 08 February 2008 16:57
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN

thanks Tristram - Can I ask some more?

So, if I understand correctly, an ethernet cable will be
require to hard 
wire the PC to the Netgear router; is the cable for this the
RJ45 that I've 
heard of?

If I want to use more than one device wirelessly, will I
need a hub, or a 
router that has several switches on it? Is it that each item
on a network 
needs it's own wireless switch on the router?

Thanks -

Andy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tristram Llewellyn"
<tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:23 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN


| Some answers
|
| Q: Does this ethernet cable run from the router to the
phone socket, or
| from
| the router to my PC?
| A: There will be a similar lead for attaching the router
to the phone
| socket, but I would recommend you have an Ethernet cable
as well which I
| don't think you will be supplied with the router, I don't
remember what
| happened with mine.  You buy pre-made ones from PC-World
with lengths to
| suit most scenarios if there isn't one.  I would never
personally have
| wireless as my only link to the network directly or
indirectly, wireless
| can occasionally have innexpliccable splutters and give up
when you
| least expect.
|
| Q: When you say "a wireless settings section" does this
mean that the
| router
| will come with a software CD, from which I can change
settings, and
| create
| this SSID?
| A: It may come with a CD but you don't need to install
anything, your
| router just connects over Ethernet so just plug it in.  If
there is a CD
| it will probably be manuals and catalogues.
|
| Q: When you say it is built in to the router, how do I
access it to
| create the
| incription?
| A: This is where the CD if any comes in handy, otherwise
there willl be
| a quick setup sheet.  It will tell you how to log into the
router.
| Basically you will load IE or other preferred browser.
Then you type in
| a location for the router, sometimes like 192.168.0.1 and
press enter.
| Routers generally have a default username "admin" and
password
| "password", the quotes are not part of the login details
those.  You are
| then logged into a web page whcih you can then navigate
and perform
| tasks on the router.  If unfamilier you will have to get
your bearings a
| bit, one of the first things it may offer you is some kind
of broadband
| auto-setup wizard so it may be handy to have the details
for your
| broadband provider handily available so you can pop those
in and get
| connected.  Then perhaps you can start to think about the
wireless and
| encryption, you wil be able to use your screen reader
commands to find
| the apropriate page on the router to deal with this.
|
| Once you have all that gong you can get the laptop or
whatever to
| connect wirelsssly to the router and manage it remotely
using that
| connection (with care) and will have the backup of
physical conection.
|
| Regards.
|
| Tristram Llewellyn
| tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Technical Support
| Sight and Sound Technology
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
| Of Andy Collins
| Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 2:58 PM
| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN
|
| Thanks Tristram, can I take some of your points and ask a
bit more
| please?
|
| You wrote:
|
| "| First thing you need to do is log into your new router
with an
| ehternet
|| cable.  That way you get yoour router connected to the
internet with
| the
|| log in details for your supplier."
|
| Does this ethernet cable run from the router to the phone
socket, or
| from
| the router to my PC?
|
| You wrote:
|
| "On the Netgears and all similar
|| routers there will be a "wireless settings" section.
Here you will
| want
|| to set up the wireless SSID (it is a name that you will
need to set
| all
|| your wireless adaptors to)."
|
| When you say "a wireless settings section" does this mean
that the
| router
| will come with a software CD, from which I can change
settings, and
| create
| this SSID?
|
| You wrote:
|
| "The other thing you should
|| consider is getting some kind of wireless encryption
going, this is
|| built into your router.  There are quite a lot of choices
but only
| some
|| are realistic, WEP is broken thoroughly so the next step
up would be
| WPA
|| which is secure enough and almost all laptop wireless
adaptors do it
|| these days.
|
| When you say it is built in to the router, how do I access
it to create
| the
| incription?
|
| Thanks for any further help -
|
| Andy
|
| ----- Original Message ----- 
| From: "Tristram Llewellyn"
<tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:59 PM
| Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN
|
|
|| First thing you need to do is log into your new router
with an
| ehternet
|| cable.  That way you get yoour router connected to the
internet with
| the
|| log in details for your supplier.  On the Netgears and
all similar
|| routers there will be a "wireless settings" section.
Here you will
| want
|| to set up the wireless SSID (it is a name that you will
need to set
| all
|| your wireless adaptors to).  You could use the default
whatever it
|| happens to be but there is some security risk in leaving
it something
|| obvious like "netgear".  I have left mine on the default
but then
| again
|| I run a full lengh fully randomised key on WPA with uPnP
disabled so
|| with that I judge it to be pretty low risk.  The other
thing you
| should
|| consider is getting some kind of wireless encryption
going, this is
|| built into your router.  There are quite a lot of choices
but only
| some
|| are realistic, WEP is broken thoroughly so the next step
up would be
| WPA
|| which is secure enough and almost all laptop wireless
adaptors do it
|| these days.  Usually it is a security passphrase or a
string of
| numbers
|| and digits, the latter aproach up to 24 digits is good
enough.  This
|| will stop your neighbours using your wireless and also
keep you safe
|| from the bad guys, so it is well worth doing.
||
|| Once you have done that at the router you get started
with the
| wireless
|| on the laptop machine.  You can set up a normal network
connection
| from
|| "control panel" and "make new connection", the wizard
should have an
|| option for creating a wireless connection where you will
be asked the
|| relevant details.  Another aproach is to open the system
tray and see
| if
|| there is an "Available wireless networks", open that up
and see if
| your
|| wireless is broadcasting to you, when you first try to
activate it you
|| will be asked for the wireless key you had set up on the
router, after
|| whcih it will log you in.
||
|| Regards.
||
|| Tristram Llewellyn
|| tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| Technical Support
|| Sight and Sound Technology
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
| Behalf
|| Of Andy Collins
|| Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:15 AM
|| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN
||
|| Thanks Tristram - So, with a wireless router, I take it I
just plug it
|| in to
|| my adapter that goes in to my phone socket, but what do I
have to do
| at
|| the
|| PC end of things to make the wireless connection?
||
|| Thanks -
||
|| Andy
|| ----- Original Message ----- 
|| From: "Tristram Llewellyn"
<tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:49 AM
|| Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN
||
||
|||I have two Netgear routers they are perfectly fine.
Belkin do some
|| good
||| cheap ones as well.
|||
|||
||| Regards.
|||
||| Tristram Llewellyn
||| tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
||| Technical Support
||| Sight and Sound Technology
|||
||| -----Original Message-----
||| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
|| Behalf
||| Of Andy Collins
||| Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:25 PM
||| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
||| Subject: [access-uk] WLAN
|||
||| Hi all
|||
||| At the moment, I have a Benitone router connected to my
PC by USB;
|| there
||| is
||| nothing on this router that will allow me to connect a
wireless
| point.
|||
||| Am I right in thinking then that a Netgear wireless
router combined
|| with
||| a
||| switch is a good way to go? Are Netgear good routers?
|||
||| Thanks -
|||
||| Andy

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