Hello John G. I take it you've removed the battery and reinserted it; it doesn't always clip in proberly. Otherwise it sounds as though the battery is absolutely dud. Hth, Mike -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Wells Sent: 07 November 2014 09:11 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: a treker breeze John I have the Breeze and you cannot over-charge it. Once full, the battery has an automatic discharge feature if still plugged into the mains. John Wells. ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5557 / Virus Database: 4189/8402 - Release Date: 10/16/14 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq