[access-uk] Re: join my group blind ms office
- From: Barry Toner <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 17:01:06 +0100
Uh,
Anyone notice my mail asking for this thread to stop? There's always a little
overlapping but any mails on this thread after this and bye bye.
Barry
List Admin.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Angel
Sent: 22 July 2012 16:09
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: join my group blind ms office
There is something to be said regarding segregation at least in the
elementary levels of education. I heard once a black advocate of
segregation say integration can't truly happen unless all are truly equal.
We blind need to have a well grounded academic, as well as a solid social
grounding before we can be totally mainstreamed. To often sighted teachers
don't truly believe we can learn the same subjects equally well as can our
sighted counterparts. The mainstreamed child is often at a disadvantage at
the beginning of his education. Thereby filling him with negativity which
need not be there, and may take a good deal of counteracting positive
experiences to erase. We blind, in order to integrate successfully in to
mainstream society need to have as positive a self image of ourselves as it
is possible to give to us. That means being comfortable with ourselves as
blind people. It must be taut us from an early age, it is we who define
what it means to bee blind, not blindness which defines us and the things of
which we are capable. Even now, I find myself allowing blindness to define
whether I ought to attempt something. Even now, sometimes a small voice
inside me tells me occasionally, I might be better off having some sighted
person help me do one thing or other. Regardless what knowledge that
sighted person has. It is enough for that small voice that the person have
sight. Which makes him just that much better than this blind person. Now,
that is wrong. But, none the less it happens. Before we can be truly
mainstreamed, we must have such a sense of pride in ourselves, and that of
which we are capable it boarders on arrogance without crossing that
invisible line between the confident and the arrogant. The line is a very
thin one. As thin as the line bordering love and hate. The successful
blind person walks it without crossing it and becoming insufferable.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Saqib Hussain" <saqibh23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 7:28 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: join my group blind ms office
> Hi. Looks like I've started a whole new debate. For me personally and
> the way I've been bought up! Blind is something to be ashamed of and
> the less the word is used in any form of life the better. I'm not
> taking a passing shot at anyone! Just trying to encourage
> mainstreemism within the blind community.
>
> On 21/07/2012, Angel <angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I love it. It is posts as are yours that remind me so much of my dear
>> late
>>
>> husband. He had partial sight. Or you might say he was "visually
>> Impaired". He didn't mind at all the label blind as it applied to him.
>> He
>>
>> associated with us totally blind folk, and as most of his friends were
>> totally blind, I believe he preferred our company. He would probably
>> say,
>> "I am blind" period dot". His speech was full of colorful phrases he
>> created himself such as "period dot".
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley23@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:53 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: join my group blind ms office
>>
>>
>>>I am blind full stop.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Angel" <angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:10 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: join my group blind ms office
>>>
>>>
>>>> You may have vision to impair. But many of us don't. We are blind.
>>>> With no sight to impair. So, why shouldn't we be proud to use the word
>>>> which most aptly describes us. If we were all called visually
>>>> impaired,
>>>>
>>>> that would imply we all had vision to impair. It would also further
>>>> stigmatize the word "blind". Which should be nothing about which to
>>>> feel
>>>>
>>>> shame. If that is what you are. If that word is used to describe
>>>> various applications or other things, it might mean we all could use
>>>> them. Not just those who only require some sort of screen
>>>> magnification
>>>>
>>>> to use them satisfactorily.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Saqib Hussain" <saqibh23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 5:37 AM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: join my group blind ms office
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi. What is it with this blind word. Personally I find it annoying
>>>>> along with a few others. Even Pacific apps for VI people are being
>>>>> called blind so and so. It's embarrassing to say the least.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/07/2012, Tom Lorimer <tlorimer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Austin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Google groups use the plus sign before the word Subscribe instead of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> normal dash.
>>>>>> Here's the correct address:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> blindmsoffice+subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers Tom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "austin pinto" <austinpinto.xaviers@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: "access uk" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "accessindia"
>>>>>> <accessindia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "blindwindows7"
>>>>>> <blindwindows7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <blindwindows8@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
>>>>>> "NVDA
>>>>>> screen reader support" <nvda-support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Voice
>>>>>> Vision."
>>>>>> <list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 6:02 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] join my group blind ms office
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hi all.
>>>>>>> sorry for the off topic message but i did 1 thing i created a new
>>>>>>> group on google groups called blind ms office whare u can discuss
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> things ms office u can join this group by sending a mail to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> blindmsoffice-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> please tell me if the link doesnt work
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>> alternat email austin.pinto@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> facebook www.facebook.com/austinpinto.xaviers
>>>>>>> orkut
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>>>>>>> twitter
>>>>>>> www.twitter.com/austinmpinto
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> join me on google +
>>>>>>> surch for +austin
>>>>>>>
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