Hi Mo Ok mum has cleaned the pc out with the hoover, it wasn't too bad, the two fans are working, one of them was a bit messy but otherwise ok. We restarted the pc, the readings with speed fan are the same, no system fan, etc etc, the temperature is still very high. 70 c plus and fluctuating. I am just going to check it once more, make sure all my hardware is connected ok and then I am going to turn it off until Paul comes, I am not going to risk using it too much. Someone suggested that the Greese could have dried out but I don't know anything about that. Any other ideas please? I will also check the processes. I am not sure about hardware so will leave it to the experts. Strange. Regards Adrien -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 9:13 AM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: my desktop hi adrien. anything's possible, but its very unlikely. all the best, Mo. On 27/01/2015 08:06, Adrien Collins wrote: > HI Mo > > I just hope the motherboard isn't faulty, is that possible? > I think the fans are connected to the power supply, not > quite sure though. > > Regards > > Adrien > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 8:57 AM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: my desktop > > hello adrien. > > as i said, your motherboard sensors could be reporting 0 RPM > because the > fans do not provide a sensor readout and are connected > directly to the > power supply, or the software you're using could be > reporting 0RPM to > indicate that the fans are not installed or connected > directly to the > mainboard to provide a readout. without looking at your > computer while > its on, its difficult to make any assumptions as to what's > going on. the > majority of smaller motherboards only have connections for 1 > or 2 extra > fans with a sensor readout function. ask paul if the fans > have a molex > connection or weather they're using a 3 pin mainboard > connection to get > their power. chances are they'll be molex which means > they're wired > directly to the power supply. > > all the best, > > Mo. > > On 27/01/2015 07:30, Adrien Collins wrote: >> Hi Mo again >> >> Just mulling this over, if my power supply was to fail or, >> if my power supply was to fail, it wouldn't stop the fans >> working, I assume it would stop working altogether, it > runs >> my drives ok so I assume it is ok, what else would stop > the >> fans from working? It is strange. Is it easy to up-grade > the >> bios? >> Regards >> >> Adrien >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal >> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 10:28 PM >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: my desktop >> >> hi adrien. >> >> it looks like all of your fans are either jammed or > they're >> not >> connected properly so as to provide a fan status readout > to >> the >> software. some fans are connected directly to the power >> supply so you >> have no idea when they fail initially. yes, it is a very >> good idea to >> get it fully checked out. dust build up could've caused > the >> problem, >> though you'd have to be in an extremely dusty house for 4 >> fans to fail >> unless they were crap quality in the first place! >> >> all the best, >> >> Mo. >> >> On 26/01/2015 20:13, Adrien Collins wrote: >>> Hi Mo >>> >>> Just to give you an up-date, it looks as if most of the >> fans >>> in my desktop are not working, I have turned the pc off, >>> Paul is coming on Monday to fix my pc, I have a spare cpu >>> fan here plus he is bringing some fans, not sure what > else >>> could be causing the problems. See below. >>> >>> Sys Fan:0 RPM >>> CPU Fan:1245 RPM >>> Aux Fan:0 RPM >>> Aux1 Fan:0 RPM >>> Aux2 Fan:0 RPM >>> System:34C >>> CPU:90C >>> AUX:57C >>> SMIOVT4:34C >>> SMIOVT5:34C >>> SMIOVT6:34C >>> HD1:31C >>> HD0:36C >>> Core 0:29C >>> CPU: >>> Regards >>> >>> Adrien >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mobeen > Iqbal >>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 8:21 PM >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: my desktop >>> >>> Hi Adrien. >>> >>> You could try HW Monitor. link is below. that seems to be >>> fine regarding >>> your CPU. if its just warm that's normal for any > computer. >>> is it an AMD? >>> they always tend to get hotter... >>> >>> http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html >>> >>> cheers, >>> >>> Mo. >>> >>> On 25/01/2015 19:17, Adrien Collins wrote: >>>> Hi Mo >>>> >>>> I have copied this from my other pc via dropbox, the cpu >>>> temperature is fluctuating from 69 to 91 c, not sure >> which >>>> one you need. At present the top isn't too hot, just >> warm. >>>> Is there a better program than speedfan for monitoring >> the >>>> internal temperatures etc please. >>>> >>>> System:33C >>>> CPU:91C >>>> AUX:56C >>>> SMIOVT4:34C >>>> SMIOVT5:34C >>>> SMIOVT6:34C >>>> HD1:32C >>>> HD0:35C >>>> Core 0:34C >>>> CPU: >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Adrien >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mobeen >> Iqbal >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 7:48 PM >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: my desktop >>>> >>>> hi adrien. >>>> >>>> what's the current temperature? ideally it should be >>> between >>>> 30 degrees >>>> C and 50 degrees C. i've always disliked norton >> utilities, >>>> so they're >>>> probably sucking up resources and making your PC run >>> hotter. >>>> finally, is >>>> it an AMD by any chance? >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> >>>> Mo. >>>> >>>> On 25/01/2015 17:35, Adrien Collins wrote: >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> I have a few questions regarding my desktop. I had a > new >>>>> power supply fitted to my desktop last year, I have > just >>>>> noticed this morning, after running the desktop for a >>>> period >>>>> of time, perhaps a few hours, my desktop gets quite > warm >>>> on >>>>> top, the power supply was replaced last year because > the >>>> fan >>>>> in the old one seized up. I have checked the fans below >>>> the >>>>> power supply, I think there are two fans below, they >> seem >>>> to >>>>> be putting out cold air although this morning they were >>>>> putting out a lot of warm air, I have just checked the >>>> side, >>>>> there is air coming out of the side vent too. At first > I >>>>> thought my cpu fan may be playing up but I am not quite >>>> sure >>>>> how I would know this. I had a few problems with my pc >> on >>>>> Thursday, it wouldn't shut off or shut down, I rolled > it >>>>> back and this morning I installed norton utilities and >>>> found >>>>> several errors, in fact several hundred and fixed them. >> I >>>>> installed speed fan, the temperature of the cpu seems > to >>>> be >>>>> a bit high, again I am not sure what the temperature >>>> should >>>>> be, I turned the pc off for the afternoon, let it cool >>>> right >>>>> down but I put it back on at 4 pm, after 2 hours it is >>>>> getting warm again. Is this normal? Should I be >>> concerned? >>>>> There is some air coming out of the power supply itself >>>> but >>>>> not a lot. What should my cpu temperature be? I assume >>>> that >>>>> if anything serious went wrong my pc would shut off to >>>>> protect itself? Also listening to it it sounds a bit >>> noisy >>>>> but it could be vibration on my desk. I have it sitting >>> on >>>> a >>>>> carpet tile. The desktop is one I had built a few years >>>> ago >>>>> in 2012, I use windows 7 pro on it. I may be worrying >> for >>>>> nothing but I pick up on noises and this doesn't quite >>>> sound >>>>> right to me. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Adrien >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ** To leave the list, click on the > immediately-following >>>> link:- >>>>> ** > [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>>> ** unsubscribe >>>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click >>> on >>>> the >>>>> ** immediately-following link:- >>>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>>> ** or send a message, to >>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- >> faq >>>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following >>>> link:- >>>> ** >>>> > [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>> ** 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