[AR] Re: Dempster Turb-O-Prop

  • From: Rand Simberg <simberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 15:44:46 -0800

He wasn't. XCOR was founded by the Roton propulsion team (for which I was doing systems engineering).

On 2/11/21 3:43 PM, roxanna Mason wrote:

A company has multiple members and all don't necessarily agree with the boss in this case Gary Hudson, the brainchild of Roton.
As far as I know Gary was not part of Xcor.

K

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 2:20 PM Norman Yarvin <yarvin@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:yarvin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 12:45:42PM -0500, Henry Spencer wrote:
    >On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, Dr Edward Jones wrote:
    >> Bet none here have heard of this odd-ball use of rocket power for
    >> propulsion...
    >
    >How much do you want to bet? :-)  Google 'rocket on rotor' for
    (among
    >other things) videos of helicopter rotors powered by tip rockets.

    Speaking of which, it's been kind of a mystery (to me, at least) what
    went wrong with Roton.  The company started out with just such a
    scheme (tip rotors with the rotor acting as a pump), switched to a
    slightly more conventional arrangement (still with the engine rotating
    and that doing the pumping but no rotors pushing air), then ran out of
    money, whereupon the people doing the engine development formed Xcor
    and went to a completely conventional arrangement.  Since even that
    latter company is now defunct, maybe people can finally spill the
    beans as to what drove those moves on a technical level. Having the
    rotor acting as a pump seemed like an easy alternative to turbopumps,
    and pushing air is an excellent way to augment thrust; but somehow the
    same team that decided that these were good ideas later decided they
    weren't -- or perhaps just that getting them done was way beyond their
    development budget.

    (Thinking about it, I can imagine some very thorny vibration issues
    with a rocket out on the end of a rotor.)


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