[AR] Re: Dry vs. wet lubrication for LOX

  • From: Henry Vanderbilt <hvanderbilt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 21:11:30 -0700

I can testify that Krytox oil freezes to rock a long, long way before you reach liquid nitrogen temperatures. Something under -60C sounds about right, but I don't recall exact numbers. (I'd assume the same about Krytox grease, but I don't know that from personal experience.)

I very much would not assume any graphite-based lube is LOX-compatible. The others, I have no idea.

Henry

On 5/2/2016 7:15 PM, Robert Watzlavick wrote:

I'm preparing for some more cold / LN2 tests of my semi-custom ball
valves.  I was reading Bal Seal TR-75 (Shaft and housing materials,
coatings, and lubricants for optimal cryogenic sealing) and it says:

"Wet lubricants may be used at temperatures to –77 F (–60 C). At lower
temperatures, dry lubricant should be used. Dry lubricants are
recommended for cryogenic service because they improve seal performance
and create a protective film between the seal and sealing surface. The
protective film reduces friction and seal wear, minimizes galling, and
improves sealing ability."

For dry lubricants, it recommends:
Microseal (Metal Improvement Co.)
Molydisulfide Spray Coating (Anadite, Inc.)
Graphite Spray-On Coating (Crest Coating, Inc. ) - is graphite oxygen
compatible?

I need some lubrication to assemble the spring loaded stem seal but I've
always used Krytox (actually I use Tribolube-16 because it's cheaper).
Now I'm wondering if the grease makes the problem worse by turning rock
hard and keeping the seal from staying formed around the shaft. I was
considering Dow Molykote Z because it is readily available.

Anybody have experience on the best lubricant for a cryogenic shaft seal?

-Bob




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