[AR] Re: ESAS Safety Concerns about Small SRMs

  • From: Henry Spencer <hspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Arocket List <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:47:10 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018, Lars Osborne wrote:

> "Both Atlas and Delta single-engine upper stages fly highly lofted > trajectories, which can produce high deceleration loads on the crew > during an abort..."

Is this why starliner will fly on a DEC?

I think you mean Dream Chaser...

Sierra Nevada probably isn't too worried about abort G-loads, so long as the thing isn't flying manned. The more important reason is that the SEC (Single Engine Centaur) simply isn't a good choice for launching heavy payloads to LEO.

Those "highly lofted" trajectories are inefficient: too much of the first-stage burn has to go to imparting vertical velocity, to ensure that the underpowered upper stage doesn't fall out of the sky before it finishes its burn. SEC is meant for delivering light payloads to high-energy orbits -- that being Atlas's main market -- where the lower dry mass is more important. The whole reason for retaining the option of a two-engine Centaur (DEC) was better performance to LEO; GD/LM/ULA has been explicit about this from the start.

(So yes, ESAS citing abort problems with SEC trajectories as a reason to reject Atlas manned launches to LEO -- DEC not being an "existing" upper stage -- was a pretty blatant case of slanting the analysis to achieve the pre-chosen conclusion. For that matter, so was making the notional CEV so bloody heavy.)

So far, there haven't been many LEO customers for Atlas III and V, their payloads haven't been pushing the limits, and the delays and costs of dusting off the DEC plans and getting it flying haven't been justified. And those delays and costs have probably been rising, as people who knew about the DEC design retired, agreements with equipment suppliers expired, and little hardware changes were made to SEC and its support equipment without considering impact on DEC.

Apparently Dream Chaser is enough of an elephant :-) that it needs the extra lift capacity. (I wouldn't be surprised if SNC does have some concerns about abort for a manned version, but I doubt that it's the main issue right now.) One of the things the lifting-body enthusiasts don't mention much is that lifting bodies tend to have a rather lower payload fraction than capsules, so they're considerably heavier for a given payload.

Henry

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