[AR] Re: Hydrogen Peroxide (oxidiser)

  • From: Henry Spencer <hspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Arocket List <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 13:26:44 -0500 (EST)

On Fri, 5 Mar 2021, Charlie Jackson wrote:

...appears to be somewhat of a dangerous ordeal from managing the propellant, to getting stable combustion and oxidation.

The British built, first sounding rockets, and then an orbital launcher with it, and their experience was that -- provided you were careful about materials and cleanliness -- it was actually quite well-behaved. They thought the unfavorable early US experience was largely the result of working with impure or contaminated peroxide.

The classic problem for amateurs is finding a supplier of high-purity high-concentration peroxide (who'll sell it to you). It's a specialty product that doesn't really have much other use. You don't want to have to concentrate it yourself.

However I don’t recall the mention of decomposing the peroxide in a separate catalyst chamber, and using the oxygen released to be mixed within the chamber. Would this work?

As Ben said, it's actually the usual way to build peroxide engines. Bear in mind, though, that we're not talking about a little separate chamber with a little pipe connecting it to the main chamber: a lot of gas has to flow from one to the other. Such designs usually end up looking more like a long two-part chamber, with the fuel injected halfway down.

The good news is that injecting fuel into a fast stream of hot oxygen-rich gas is very good for atomization and mixing, and with high-concentration peroxide it will generally give hypergolic ignition too. The bad news is the care and feeding of catalyst packs, which are more complicated and more troublesome than they might look.

You'd want to start with monopropellant peroxide: just flow the peroxide through the catalyst, don't try to inject fuel. That makes a decent rocket all by itself, and lets you sort out catalyst packs and the details of working with peroxide in a simpler system. Once that's working well, *then* start injecting fuel for higher performance.

I don’t really want to mess with cryogenic propellant due to lack of experience, so would 50/60% peroxide suffice?

It's going to be a learning experience either way, I'm afraid. :-)

50-60% isn't really enough for catalytic decomposition. 80% and up is desirable (although orthodox silver-based catalysts can't handle more than about 90%).

Henry

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