[AR] Re: Laws on Liquid Fueled Rocket Engine Construction
- From: Paul Mueller <paul.mueller.iii@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 13:42:06 -0600
The Yale Undergraduate Aerospace Association is alive and well (they had a
successful flight at the Intercollegiate Rocket Engineering Competition in
June), and they have a faculty advisor. They are not working on any liquid
engines that I'm aware of.
John Garvey of Garvey Spacecraft Corporation (http://www.garvspace.com/)
has done lots of work with liquids (ground tests and flights) in probably
the most restrictive jurisdiction (the People's Republic of California) so
he'd probably be a good one to talk to.
Tripoli only allows liquid engine flights with approval of the national
Board of Directors so most local TRA folks don't seem to know much about
liquids (in my experience). The Board of Directors might be able to give
you some guidance regarding laws and regulations.
Paul M
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Bill Claybaugh <wclaybaugh2@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Eric:
>
> Private emails should be respected; your lack of such respect has
> consequences: one--and only one--of those consequences is that you shall
> never again hear more from me after this:
>
> In my direct personal experience, student organizations require a central
> organizing figure. In the absence of such, they fail to thrive. Most
> often, that figure is a faculty member but not occasionally that person is
> a student. In my previous experience, when that happens, the student in
> question is a Sophomore, thus giving that person three years to form the
> organization to their vision. The current "rocket club" at MIT is an
> example of this, albeit given a supportive environment.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 29, 2014, at 14:07, Eric Sims <ericsimsm@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I contacted Glen Meyerowitz and he informed me that the Yale Propulsion
> Lab has pretty much shut down. He suggested that I check out CT Tripoli.
> Think they would be doing anything with experimental engines?
>
> -Eric
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Dave McCue <davemccue@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like Bill has a good lead for you. Working with a group saves
>> much effort, especially one that has already dealt with the regulatory
>> and facilities issues. Even if they are old school. :)
>>
>> -Dave Mc
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Bill Claybaugh <wclaybaugh2@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > There's an ancient school down in New Haven that has a rocket club as
>> part
>> > of the engineering program. I believe they are setting up a liquid
>> rocket
>> > test site.
>> >
>> > Bill
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Aug 27, 2014, at 13:41, Eric Sims <ericsimsm@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > I live in Connecticut. Yeah I'd imagine that the laws on actually
>> launching
>> > would be much more strict. I am only working on engine design for now
>> > though. I live in suburbs so noise could be an issue, but most of the
>> > neighbors are pretty used to it.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Eric
>> >
>> > On Aug 27, 2014 2:49 PM, "Dave McCue" <davemccue@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Where do you reside? In the United States, it is quite possible to do
>> >> amateur rocketry within the law, although the rules vary by state.
>> >> California, for example, places few limits on the scale of rocket
>> >> engines and size of experimental rockets, but imposes some specific
>> >> requirements on those who want to test or fly their creations.
>> >>
>> >> -Dave McCue
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Eric Sims <ericsimsm@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >> > That's what I thought, but I just wanted to be sure.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> > -Eric Sims
>> >> >
>> >> > On Aug 27, 2014 7:46 AM, "James G" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 20:34:06 -0400
>> >> >> > Subject: [AR] Laws on Liquid Fueled Rocket Engine Construction
>> >> >> > From: Eric Sims <ericsimsm@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I was wondering what kind of laws pose
>> >> >> > restriction for liquid fueled engine construction?
>> >> >> > Thank you
>> >> >> > -Eric Sims
>> >> >>
>> >> >> A Liquid fuel rocket engine is just plumbing. Some fuels, esp. at
>> >> >> larger
>> >> >> quantities have restrictions and hazardous handling requirements,
>> and
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> are likely to attract the curiosity of various government agencies,
>> but
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> machinery itself is not restricted the way that firearms are.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -James
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
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