[AR] Re: Lubricant for cryogenic Valves

  • From: "Bruno Berger" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ("bruno.berger")
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 19:54:45 +0700

To be honest: Try to avoid any lubricants at ALL! Most of that Krytox stuff gets rock solid at -200Ā°. Use materials like PTFE or PCTFE which have acceptable tribological properties at this temperature without lubs. Try to keep the bearing out of the cryo temps, then you can lubricate them. For example a long stem which can be heated.

In our LOX-valves (Ball) we ended up with PCTFE seals which were spring loaded and pressure compensated. Bearings for the stem were outsideĀ  the cryo region and were heated.

Keep in mind, that those seals shrink at low temperatures and a LOX valve can get stuck or at least needs significant more torque to operate than under room temperature.

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Am 19.02.23 um 18:35 schrieb Rocket Pavitra:

What are the different options for lubricants to use for valves that carry cryogenic fluids (liquid oxygen/methane).

I searched online and can't seem to find one that can work well below -112 degree celsius.
Since Liquid oxygen is -183 and liquid nitrogen -210 there must be some sort of lubricant that is used in valves that operate with cryo fluids.

- Pavitra

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