[AR] Re: SpaceX F9 Launch/Update -- Live Link

  • From: Henry Vanderbilt <hvanderbilt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 16:17:18 -0700

NK-33 vac T:W, 138. Merlin 1D, vac T:W 180.

Mind, NK-33 in fact does have a higher chamber pressure, 2150 psi to 1410 psi for Merlin 1D.

Chamber pressure does seem to be a significant factor in engine weight, yeah.

On 12/29/2015 1:48 PM, David Gregory wrote:

It was stated that GG engines are lighter than alternatives. At a given
chamber pressure, that's not the case.

On Dec 29, 2015, at 12:40 PM, David Weinshenker <daze39@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 12/29/2015 12:02 PM, David Gregory wrote:
There is nothing magical about the GG cycle that makes it lighter.

No, there's nothing "magic" about gas generator cycles - they're a
simple, effective solution. There's something a bit "demonic" about
staged combustion cycles (from the engine development point of view),
though; it's much harder to develop such an engine incrementally: you
sort of have to get everything working at once in order to test-run
anything.

I heard that a number of SSME prototypes were consumed in the
process of discovering a safe startup sequence... it wouldn't
surprise me if there were similar experiences "over there",
during the initial development of the RD-180.

-dave w





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