[AR] Re: SpaceX F9 Launch/Update -- Live Link

  • From: David McMIllan <skyefire@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 23:29:14 -0500



On 12/27/2015 1:13 PM, David Weinshenker wrote:


Or put another way, once you have an incoming launch vehicle
requirement, it may be too late - especially in the context
of the compressed budget and schedule expectations which seem
to be the "modern" fashion - to initiate an applicable engine
development project. (Note that the F-1 work began well before
anything resembling the Saturn/Apollo launch configuration, as
such, had been explicitly specified - but it was foreseen that
lunar missions might be proposed, and it could be anticipated
that these would require large launch vehicles and new high-
thrust engines.)

Yeah. The "Space Rocket History" podcast (quite worth a listen, IMO) goes into quite a bit of detail on this subject during one "arc". I was amazed to hear just how early the first dev contracts for (what became) the F-1 and the Saturn were signed -- several months *before* JFK's "we choose to go to the moon" speech. The entire time that Mercury was trying to get off the ground, the critical elements of the Saturn/Apollo stack were already being worked on concurrently, and absorbing the lessons learned from Mercury and Gemini as they went. So by the time of the first Saturn 5 launch, the vehicle and its engines had been in design and development for roughly 7 years (or more, depending on where you draw the exact starting point).
Of course, these days, getting the same amount of work done via the Congress/NASA/cost-plus contract route would probably take 20 years, with the program cancelled, renamed, and re-stared at least 3 times along the way....

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