[AR] Re: Updated custom ball valve

  • From: Robert Watzlavick <rocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 12:00:25 -0500

I have two of those long-stem Worcester valves that I use on the test stand as manual fill valves. Very nice valves and they turn nice and smooth when cold. But they are very heavy. I recall the stem seal being a bunch of PTFE washers compressed together or something similar. With enough compression, the washers cold flow and make a seal.

I also have two cryo MCF valves on my test stand connected up to rotary air actuators. They are quite hard to turn when cold and in particular, the one I'm using for the LOX vent valve on the stand is very hard to turn because I mounted it with the stem facing down. It doesn't leak but you have to either use a heat gun on it or loosen the body bolts to get it turn when cold, even at 120 psi with fairly large actuator. For the next static test I'll reorient it back upright.

-Bob

On 05/30/2016 11:19 AM, Henry Vanderbilt wrote:

I believe Worcester offers short-stem options for cryo valves. The drawings at https://www.flowserve.com/files/Files/Literature/ProductLiterature/FlowControl/WorcesterControls/WCENBR1040-01.pdf may tell you a bit about how they go about sealing things.

Henry

On 5/30/2016 8:52 AM, Robert Watzlavick wrote:
What kind of stem seal did they use?  Was it the type where you have a
cone that squeezes into a sleeve?

I hadn't seen any short stem cryo models. It might be worth me getting
one to take it apart. Were these custom or off the shelf?

-Bob

On May 30, 2016, at 10:24, Ben Brockert <wikkit@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:wikkit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

To be clear, basically every vehicle I've worked on had short stem
cryo ball valves, and most of them did not leak. Torque requirements
are another issue, but it is not a universal truth that all short stem
ball valves leak out the stem.



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