[AR] Re: arocket Digest V11 #72

  • From: "John Dom" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ("johndom")
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2023 02:29:39 +0200 (CEST)


The 90 % HTP (super pure) used as monopropellant for braking the Soyuz capsules prior/during  landing is (or was) produced by EVONIK in Antwerp, Belgium. Next it is shipped to Germany for final purification and transport to  Russia.

There are several Soyuz capsules attached to the ISS for station emergencies.

All have HTP aboard. Since the peroxide concentration diminishes with age I wonder how long it is allowed to stay up there. I have no idea.

John























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FMC sold their peroxide operation to Peroxychem; we were able to buy a batch of nominally 98% from them back in 2018-2019.  Tested out at 97% when we got it IIRC, somewhat less than that in 2022 when we actually launched.  But Aerospace Corporation has a government contract and a reputation for safety, so I don't know whether they'd be willing to sell to amateurs, small businesses, etc.



         John Schilling





 On 4/19/2023 8:28 AM, Ben Brockert wrote:


 Benchmark (includes some ex-Masten people) and reportedly Rocket Lab
 are both doing peroxide for in-space propulsion. I don't think either
 test at FAR, but there does seem to still be a supply chain for it. I
 haven't asked if FMC ever got around to making another batch, the
 peroxide I used back in the day was nominally 90% that was closer to
 85% because it had sat around for so many years.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 5:52 PM Ian M. Garcia <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks! I know Paul Breed used to work with peroxide, so I thought initially this may be some of his, but it didn't look like it.

This looks like a recent video, so maybe Ventura is doing something with peroxide?

I was just curious. This looks like high percentage peroxide which IIRC takes effort to produce, so somebody is deliberately making it.
 --
 Ian M Garcia

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         Who is working with peroxide at FAR these days?
 --
 Ian M Garcia

The video quoted shows a logo for Ventura Energy Systems, and if I recall (it’s been a few decades) that was Mark Ventura in the video.  The Ventura Energy Systems website shows some images of testing at the FAR site.

I don’t know others currently working with Peroxide. Paul Breed had been with his lander project, but that work has ceased.

 Keith





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