My favorite bit about the DARE launch videos are them running recovery
tests in an actual wind tunnel, when we did ballute tests at Armadillo
with an A-frame of steel tubes strapped to Joseph's pickup truck
speeding down a runway and me loose in the back with a cheap high
speed camera.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 8:14 PM Rick Maschek
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Bill,
Since we couldn't hear any countdown I set one of my GoPro 3 on the ground
facing RRS so focal length is GoPro 3 lens.
I'm watching the DARE online pre-Strattos IV launch so I'll send you the clip
after launch. Compared to structures at RRS, it looks like the turn occurred
around 100' +/- ?
Rick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9pIYDG2Xpw
On Tuesday, October 19, 2021, 06:05:15 PM PDT, FreeLists Mailing List Manager
<ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
arocket Digest Tue, 19 Oct 2021 Volume: 09 Issue: 235
In This Issue:
[AR] Re: Test Launch
[AR] Re: Test Launch
[AR] Re: Test Launch
[AR] Re: Test Launch
[AR] Re: Test Launch
[AR] Re: Test Launch
[AR] Re: Test Launch
[AR] Virgin delays.
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From: roxanna Mason <rocketmaster.ken@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 18:30:30 -0700
Subject: [AR] Re: Test Launch
Sounds like damage from the launcher,
Ken
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 6:15 PM Troy Prideaux <troy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Bill,
Any ideas why the antenna snapped off? Was it in the same area at the
chute and shock cords? Any photos to share?
Troy
*From:* arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
*On Behalf Of *William Claybaugh
*Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2021 11:32 AM
*To:* arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [AR] Test Launch
Launched a 6” rocket at the MTA this weekend.
The rocket part worked fine: clean ignition, full 8 second burn.
Bellybands worked and separated as planned.
The payload had multiple failures: telemetry stopped at 119 feet and 425
ft/ sec when the antenna snapped off at the base. About the same time the
payload separated from the rocket. (The two may well be related.) Payload
was recovered and I will download the data for review when I get home.
The bellybands were pretty chewed up by the ride up the rail. The fins
clearly tore into the bottom band on ignition (bands were 0.020” 2024-T3).
A redesign with stronger bands appears a good idea.
Bill
------------------------------
From: "Troy Prideaux" <troy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AR] Re: Test Launch
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 13:03:15 +1100
Yeah, you’re most likely correct Ken. We mount all our antennas internally,
so it that didn’t occur to me, but Bill might be constrained to mount his
externally with a metal airframe or surrounding structure.
Troy
From: arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of roxanna Mason
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 12:31 PM
To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AR] Re: Test Launch
Sounds like damage from the launcher,
Ken
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 6:15 PM Troy Prideaux <troy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:troy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Bill,
Any ideas why the antenna snapped off? Was it in the same area at the chute
and shock cords? Any photos to share?
Troy
From: arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ;<mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ]
On Behalf Of William Claybaugh
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 11:32 AM
To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AR] Test Launch
Launched a 6” rocket at the MTA this weekend.
The rocket part worked fine: clean ignition, full 8 second burn. Bellybands
worked and separated as planned.
The payload had multiple failures: telemetry stopped at 119 feet and 425 ft/
sec when the antenna snapped off at the base. About the same time the payload
separated from the rocket. (The two may well be related.) Payload was
recovered and I will download the data for review when I get home.
The bellybands were pretty chewed up by the ride up the rail. The fins
clearly tore into the bottom band on ignition (bands were 0.020” 2024-T3). A
redesign with stronger bands appears a good idea.
Bill
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 02:33:20 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Rick Maschek" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ("rickmaschek")
Subject: [AR] Re: Test Launch
Hi Bill,
Here is an image from a video from FAR I took of your launch. Made a very
obvious course correction shortly after liftoff.
Rick
From: "Troy Prideaux" <troy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AR] Re: Test Launch
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 12:14:54 +1100
Bill,
Any ideas why the antenna snapped off? Was it in the same area at the chute
and shock cords? Any photos to share?
Troy
From: arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of William Claybaugh
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 11:32 AM
To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AR] Test Launch
Launched a 6” rocket at the MTA this weekend.
The rocket part worked fine: clean ignition, full 8 second burn. Bellybands
worked and separated as planned.
The payload had multiple failures: telemetry stopped at 119 feet and 425 ft/
sec when the antenna snapped off at the base. About the same time the payload
separated from the rocket. (The two may well be related.) Payload was
recovered and I will download the data for review when I get home.
The bellybands were pretty chewed up by the ride up the rail. The fins
clearly tore into the bottom band on ignition (bands were 0.020” 2024-T3). A
redesign with stronger bands appears a good idea.
Bill
------------------------------
From: William Claybaugh <wclaybaugh2@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 05:07:38 -0700
Subject: [AR] Re: Test Launch
Rick:
Thanks, that is a big help. Pending looking over the on board data I am
currently assuming the payload separation led to the “course correction”.
Bill
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 8:33 PM Rick Maschek <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi Bill,
Here is an image from a video from FAR I took of your launch. Made a very
obvious course correction shortly after liftoff.
Rick
[image: Inline image]
From: "Troy Prideaux" <troy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AR] Re: Test Launch
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 12:14:54 +1100
Bill,
Any ideas why the antenna snapped off? Was it in the same area at the
chute and shock cords? Any photos to share?
Troy
From: arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of William Claybaugh
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 11:32 AM
To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AR] Test Launch
Launched a 6” rocket at the MTA this weekend.
The rocket part worked fine: clean ignition, full 8 second burn.
Bellybands worked and separated as planned.
The payload had multiple failures: telemetry stopped at 119 feet and 425
ft/ sec when the antenna snapped off at the base. About the same time the
payload separated from the rocket. (The two may well be related.) Payload
was recovered and I will download the data for review when I get home.
The bellybands were pretty chewed up by the ride up the rail. The fins
clearly tore into the bottom band on ignition (bands were 0.020” 2024-T3).
A redesign with stronger bands appears a good idea.
Bill
------------------------------
From: William Claybaugh <wclaybaugh2@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 05:12:44 -0700
Subject: [AR] Re: Test Launch
Troy:
I am currently guessing high rates when the payload came off leading to
antenna failure. The internal data will have recorded all that so it
should be possible to pinpoint.
Bill
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 7:15 PM Troy Prideaux <troy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Bill,
Any ideas why the antenna snapped off? Was it in the same area at the
chute and shock cords? Any photos to share?
Troy
*From:* arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
*On Behalf Of *William Claybaugh
*Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2021 11:32 AM
*To:* arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [AR] Test Launch
Launched a 6” rocket at the MTA this weekend.
The rocket part worked fine: clean ignition, full 8 second burn.
Bellybands worked and separated as planned.
The payload had multiple failures: telemetry stopped at 119 feet and 425
ft/ sec when the antenna snapped off at the base. About the same time the
payload separated from the rocket. (The two may well be related.) Payload
was recovered and I will download the data for review when I get home.
The bellybands were pretty chewed up by the ride up the rail. The fins
clearly tore into the bottom band on ignition (bands were 0.020” 2024-T3).
A redesign with stronger bands appears a good idea.
Bill
------------------------------
From: William Claybaugh <wclaybaugh2@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 05:13:44 -0700
Subject: [AR] Re: Test Launch
Troy:
Antenna was mounted vertically and internally.
Bill
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 8:03 PM Troy Prideaux <troy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Yeah, you’re most likely correct Ken. We mount all our antennas
internally, so it that didn’t occur to me, but Bill might be constrained to
mount his externally with a metal airframe or surrounding structure.
Troy
*From:* arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
*On Behalf Of *roxanna Mason
*Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2021 12:31 PM
*To:* arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [AR] Re: Test Launch
Sounds like damage from the launcher,
Ken
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 6:15 PM Troy Prideaux <troy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Bill,
Any ideas why the antenna snapped off? Was it in the same area at the
chute and shock cords? Any photos to share?
Troy
*From:* arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
*On Behalf Of *William Claybaugh
*Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2021 11:32 AM
*To:* arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [AR] Test Launch
Launched a 6” rocket at the MTA this weekend.
The rocket part worked fine: clean ignition, full 8 second burn.
Bellybands worked and separated as planned.
The payload had multiple failures: telemetry stopped at 119 feet and 425
ft/ sec when the antenna snapped off at the base. About the same time the
payload separated from the rocket. (The two may well be related.) Payload
was recovered and I will download the data for review when I get home.
The bellybands were pretty chewed up by the ride up the rail. The fins
clearly tore into the bottom band on ignition (bands were 0.020” 2024-T3).
A redesign with stronger bands appears a good idea.
Bill
------------------------------
From: William Claybaugh <wclaybaugh2@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 16:04:06 -0600
Subject: [AR] Re: Test Launch
Rick:
Could I get a copy of this video?
Do you know the focal length of the lens? With that, I can estimate how
high the turn occurred and compare that to the 119 feet when LOS occurred.
Bill
On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 6:07 AM William Claybaugh <wclaybaugh2@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Rick:
Thanks, that is a big help. Pending looking over the on board data I am
currently assuming the payload separation led to the “course correction”.
Bill
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 8:33 PM Rick Maschek <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi Bill,
Here is an image from a video from FAR I took of your launch. Made a
very obvious course correction shortly after liftoff.
Rick
[image: Inline image]
From: "Troy Prideaux" <troy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AR] Re: Test Launch
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 12:14:54 +1100
Bill,
Any ideas why the antenna snapped off? Was it in the same area at the
chute and shock cords? Any photos to share?
Troy
From: arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of William Claybaugh
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 11:32 AM
To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AR] Test Launch
Launched a 6” rocket at the MTA this weekend.
The rocket part worked fine: clean ignition, full 8 second burn.
Bellybands worked and separated as planned.
The payload had multiple failures: telemetry stopped at 119 feet and 425
ft/ sec when the antenna snapped off at the base. About the same time the
payload separated from the rocket. (The two may well be related.) Payload
was recovered and I will download the data for review when I get home.
The bellybands were pretty chewed up by the ride up the rail. The fins
clearly tore into the bottom band on ignition (bands were 0.020” 2024-T3).
A redesign with stronger bands appears a good idea.
Bill
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From: Anthony Cesaroni <anthony@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AR] Virgin delays.
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 23:53:09 +0000
https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/10/19/virgin-galactic/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2021/10/19/down-13-last-week-whats-next-for-virgin-galactic-stock/?shZ27cdc8dfc0
Anthony J. Cesaroni
President/CEO
Cesaroni Technology/Cesaroni Aerospace
http://www.cesaronitech.com/
(941) 360-3100 x1004 Sarasota
(905) 887-2370 x222 Toronto
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