[AR] big rockets (was Re: Nothing to do with rockets.)

  • From: Henry Spencer <hspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Arocket List <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 19:24:34 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 4 Oct 2021, John Stoffel wrote:

It might also be a vehicle for large things that people can't launch
even now without major contortions, here's looking at you JWST!  Just
imagine how good a telescope you could send up if you didn't have to
pack it into an A5 fairing.  Or what about those SAR satellites with
big radar dishes?

Although note, the issue here is not so much that the cargo volumes aren't big enough, as that in-orbit assembly is not available -- something that could be corrected without a great big rocket.

Nowadays, even ground observatories invariably build their big telescopes with multi-segment mirrors.

The absolute poster child for why to avoid compact packages which deploy themselves in space was the Galileo Jupiter orbiter... but note that it was designed to deploy its antenna *before* being released from the Shuttle, when corrective attention (or even "no, it's broken, bring it back down and we'll fix it") was still possible. Compare to what happened when Compton had an antenna-deployment problem (of a different kind): release was delayed, the crew went out and fixed it, back on track, mission successful. But alas for Galileo, its original upper stage got canceled, the mission plan had to be changed so that everything would still fit in one launch, and antenna deployment had to be postponed until way out in deep space... where there was nothing to be done when the antenna hung up and didn't deploy.

When you can build bigger things and just throw mass at the problem, it would seem to help reduce the problem space, or at least change it.

Broadly true, but remember that bigger things don't necessarily have to be launched in one piece. As you yourself note:

Looking at how they ship those huge ring cranes in standard shipping
container sized pieces...

Trust me, the spacecraft people would be *delighted* to do their final assembly and checkout after the noisy bouncy part was over -- that would be a much better approach, strongly preferred. Doesn't really matter whether bringing the subassemblies up requires multiple loads, so long as they all end up in the same place, where a couple of guys can plug them together, check them out, and see them off.

Henry

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