Aren't facts facts? If an area isnotcompliant isn' it by defintion
non-compliant?
I don't get this bullshit of the organizers of distruction.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Jarvis" <carjar82@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 5:45 PM
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: 27 years after ada
Joe,
Are we being led by the noses, or is it bred into our genes, this
need to quibble with one another? Disabled people can't seem to mount
a solid front, leaving themselves vulnerable to the slow moving,
oppressive bureaucracy which has no feeling toward the disabled folks
needs. I recall all too well the fights we blind people had with the
wheel chair folks over curb cuts. Braille and raised numerals left
physically disabled people disinterested. Rather than finding common
ground, we found reasons to pick the other folks apart.
Carl Jarvis
On 7/19/17, joe harcz Comcast <joeharcz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Second bite at this apple, but....
Seattle isn't the only entity in these regards to have variously violated
the ADA and Section 504 over decades.
And by the way I think Seattle as a whole and as a body even over time is
generally better, more progressive than other cities in America; often by a
long shot too. Yet, here a progressive city is 25 plus years out of
compliance in a documented and self-admitted fashion, for they don't even,
unlike other scofflaws, deny the violations of civil rights here.
Regardless, tally up the ammount of people with disabilities killed in
traffic accidents do to lack of access over the years; people who use
wheelchairs forced in to streets because of lack of curb cuts and you and
others will see how this turns deadly.
All will see inequities in law which are common sense for if the government
devises a schema for remedying a wrong on constitutional grounds and this is
the ADA, btw in action and doesn't do a thing after decades and in fact
willfully violates clear cut mandates then the entity is culpable for harm
and wrongs against the agrieved parties.
Even here in this robust settlement PWD who use mobility devices and indeed
the blind are fucked over again with the terms of the settlement. For most
of us won't be alive when it is perportedly accomplished!
If one is a person in a wheelchair today and wishes to simply cross the
street she is violated when long standing obligations deny her the right to
do so in an equatable and safe manner as prescribed by law and regulation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Jarvis" <carjar82@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 2:23 PM
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: 27 years after ada
Some issues never go away. As far back as the early 70's the Blind
Organization joined forces with other disabled groups to work with the
city of Seattle, to standardize and install wheelchair ramps. For a
while there was lots of activity. Looks like the project must have
fallen through a crack in the street.
Carl Jarvis
On 7/18/17, joe harcz Comcast <joeharcz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Settlement orders Seattle to fix, install 22,500 sidewalk ramps
Updated: Jul 18, 2017 - 8:27 AM
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SEATTLE - Seattle will have to fix or install more than 22,000 sidewalks
over the next two decades, according to a report Tuesday morning.
It's part of a settlement to a federal class-action lawsuit.
The lawsuit was filed in 2015 by three men claiming the city was
violating
the Americans with Disabilities Act.
In Pioneer Square, there’s a perfect example of the challenge people in
wheelchairs face in parts of Seattle.
At Yesler and Second, there's no wheelchair ramp into the crosswalk where
there are somewhat tall curbs.
There's ramps at other nearby crosswalks, but on the other side of
Yesler,
people in wheelchairs or those who use walkers have to go into the
driveway
of
the parking garage to get up onto the curb.
The people who filed the class action lawsuit say there are thousands of
such scenarios in Seattle, where people with disabilities don't have
legal
access
to crosswalks.
Under the settlement reported by the Seattle Times, the City of Seattle
agrees to build or fix 22,500 sidewalk ramps.
That's 1,250 every year for the next 18 years, at a cost of nearly $300
million.
That dollar amount may drop dramatically with a new expedited process to
get
the ramps completed.
The Seattle Department of Transportation has been putting in new sidewalk
ramps even before the lawsuit was filed.
But the settlement, which still has to be approved by a judge, would
speed
up the process.
Meanwhile, members of an advisory group for King County's Metro Access
plan
to testify at a committee meeting Tuesday morning.
Last month, we reported about a scathing audit that says King County
Metro
service for people with disabilities is expensive and inefficient.
The group says it’s concerned those issues aren't being addressed.
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Source:
http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/settlement-orders-seattle-to-fix-install-22500-sidewalk-ramps/563781442