In some places, prisoners have to pay for their own medicl care, electricity,
food. They get paid $1 a day or 17 cents an hour or nothing. They work for
corporations like Mc Donalds doing food preparation, working in call centers,
doing road maintenance, fire fighting. One place didn't want prisoners released
on parole because they wouldn't have enough free labor. It's just horrible and
it's hidden.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 7:34 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Freedom of expression
Absolutely true. We really do allow a "slave system" to exist. We just call
it a different name. As a Chris Hedges "Groupie", I've read and heard him
speak about his experiences as a history teacher in prisons. I had always
known that some production work was done by prisoners, remembering back to when
our governor determined that state agencies had to justify why they would not
purchase prison-made products before looking at other sources. Until then I
had believed only our license plates were made by prisoners.
In fact, I had no idea that prisoners were denied not only the little comforts,
but some basic supplies, unless they paid for them. I never knew that
prisoners could leave prison more deeply in debt than they entered.
Greed, the lust for wealth, has truly become our Master. We have allowed Greed
to shake down our children, to drain our elders, to hold all of our health
hostage, and, in order to rake in even greater riches, Greed has turned the
Masses against those people who seek Peace, declaring them to be traitors and
cowards. All done in the Holy Name of Profit.
Carl Jarvis
On 9/24/18, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I love your stories. And then there's also this basic assumption that
our biggest danger is some terrorist from somewhere else, someone Who
doesn't speak English and is going to do us harm. Interesting because
our biggest danger comes from English speaking powerful Americans who
have destroyed whatever democracy we had and who are corrupting our
society so that it is becoming impersonal, technocratic, heartless,
and greedy beyond belief. Just read the chapter of Hedges' new book
which describes our prison system. You may think you have already read
everything about it. You haven't. Read the list of corporations who
employ prisoners as slave labor, corporations whose products you use every
day.
Miriam
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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 5:35 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Carolyn <chaas0217@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Freedom of expression
Ah yes, flying the friendly skies!
It's always interested me, this "Eye Witness" report. Add a second
person and you have Two Eye Witness Reports. Add a third
person...well, you get the idea. What actually occurred on that wild
and crazy flight will only be known to those who saw it first hand...to each
his/her own.
But while they debate who saw what, the thing that strikes me is the
changes going on in our airline's customer care. I'm old enough to
remember when I had leg room and my butt fit the seat comfortably.
Since I'm wearing the same size...and maybe the same jeans, it's not
me that grew wider. We used to get something called "food" served
during the flight. I think the last time I flew from San Diego to
Seattle, I was mistakenly served some stale, chopped up croutons...just a
taste.
And the lines were held up by the "Body Snatchers". Because my hip
replacement set off the alarm, I was pulled aside by a deaf mute
fellow who began doing a thorough body search. I waved my doctor's
note regarding the composition of my hip replacement, but my tormentor
obviously did not speak or read English. I even spoke in words with
only four letters, hoping he would understand. By this time he was
busy feeling up and down the seams of my jeans. Up and down he went.
"Would it help if I take them off?" I inquired. He bent even closer
to his work and continued wordlessly. At the same time there was a
shouting match going on at the back of a line some distance beyond me.
Turned out it was my sister-in-law. She had joined my wife and myself
in the line for those needing to have their jean seams inspected. My
wife had simply come along with me to give sighted assistance...since
she did speak English and had a regular, normal IQ. But the airport
workers were not going to be fooled by a second sighted person traveling with
the blind man.
No siree! She, my sister-in-law was not allowed to join us, even
though we were traveling together.
Now I've always been a friendly, quiet fellow, blind or sighted. But
I've had to wrestle with determined flight attendants(once called,
Stewardesses), as they attempted to snatch my travel cane. Just hold
on to it and you'll see an amazing transformation from smiling, gentle , to a
snarling Vampire.
One time the woman was really strong enough to be a problem. "Let
go!" she shouted, "This cane could be a danger if we had any problem during
flight".
I shouted back, "Do you want my dentures, too? If we crash I might
accidentally bite someone".
But at least those folks were paying attention to me. Nothing worse
than to have called ahead and requested sighted assistance at a
strange airport, only to find the request was never sent ahead.
And of course, it's all the government's fault, this mean spirited
attitude of the airlines. If only they could deregulate, things would
just be so much better...
Carl Jarvis
On 9/24/18, Richard Driscoll <llocsirdsr@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Snopes has listed the following report with a mixed classification.
There are a multitude of reports on this subject. None of which, in my
opinion, contain nothing but the truth. I have removed the pictures
from the copy because of the problems with Windows and various screen
readers.
R. E. Driscoll
Did a Dry Run Hijacking Take Place on Flight 297?
An account of Muslims' allegedly engaging in a 'dry run' hijacking
on AirTran Flight 297 was contradicted by airline officials.
CLAIM
Account describes Muslims allegedly engaging in a "dry run" hijacking
on AirTran Flight 297.
RATING
Mixture <https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rating/mixture>
ORIGIN
One week ago, I went to Ohio on business and to see my father. On
Tuesday, November the 17th, I returned home. If you read the papers
the 18th you may have seen a blurb where a AirTran flight was
cancelled from Atlanta to Houston due to a man who refused to get
off of his cell phone before takeoff. It was on Fox.
This was NOT what happened.
I was in 1st class coming home. 11 Muslim men got on the plane in
full attire. 2 sat in 1st class and the rest peppered themselves
throughout the plane all the way to the back. As the plane taxied to
the runway the stewardesses gave the safety spiel we are all so
familiar with. At that time, one of the men got on his cell and
called one of his companions in the back and proceeded to talk on
the phone in Arabic very loudly and very aggressively. This took the
1st stewardess out of the picture for she repeatedly told the man
that cell phones were not permitted at the time. He ignored her as
if she was not there.
The 2nd man who answered the phone did the same and this took out
the 2nd stewardess. In the back of the plane at this time, 2 younger
Muslims, one in the back, isle, and one in front of him, window,
began to show footage of a porno they had taped the night before,
and were very loud about it. Now … they are only permitted to do
this prior to Jihad. If a Muslim man goes into a strip club, he has
to view the woman via mirror with his back to her. (don’t ask me … I
don’t make the rules, but I’ve studied).
The 3rd stewardess informed them that they were not to have
electronic devices on at this time. To which one of the men said
“shut up infidel dog!” She went to take the camcorder and he began
to scream in her face in Arabic. At that exact moment, all 11 of
them got up and started to walk the cabin. This is where I had had
enough! I got up and started to the back where I heard a voice
behind me from another Texan twice my size say “I got your back.” I
grabbed the man who had been on the phone by the arm and said “you
WILL go sit down or you Will be thrown from this plane!” As I “led”
him around me to take his seat, the fellow Texan grabbed him by the
back of his neck and his waist and headed out with him. I then
grabbed the 2nd man and said, “You WILL do the same!” He protested
but adrenaline was flowing now and he was going to go. As I escorted
him forward the plane doors open and 3 TSA agents and 4 police
officers entered. Me and my new Texan friend were told to cease and
desist for they had this under control. I was happy to oblige
actually. There was some commotion in the back, but within moments,
all 11 were escorted off the plane. They then unloaded their luggage.
We talked about the occurrence and were in disbelief that it had
happen, when suddenly, the door open again and on walked all 11!!
Stone faced, eyes front and robotic (the only way I can describe
it). The stewardess from the back had been in tears and when she saw
this, she was having NONE of it! Being that I was up front, I heard
and saw the whole ordeal. She told the TSA agent there was NO WAY
she was staying on the plane with these men. The agent told her they
had searched them and were going to go through their luggage with a
fine tooth comb and that they were allowed to proceed to Houston.
The captain and co-captain came out and told the agent â??we and
our crew will not fly this plane!â? After a word or two, the
entire crew, luggage in tow, left the plane. 5 minutes later, the
cabin door opened again and a whole new crew walked on.
Again … this is where I had had enough!!! I got up and asked “What
the hell is going on!?!?” I was told to take my seat. They were
sorry for the delay and I would be home shortly. I said “I’m getting
off this plane”. The stewardess sternly told me that she could not
allow me to get off. (now I’m mad!) I said “I am a grown man who
bought this ticket, who’s time is mine with a family at home and I
am going through that door, or I’m going through that door with you
under my arm!! But I am going through that door!!” And I heard a
voice behind me say “so am I”. Then everyone behind us started to
get up and say the same. Within 2 minutes, I was walking off that
plane where I was met with more agents who asked me to write a
statement. I had 5 hours to kill at this point so why the hell not.
Due to the amount of people who got off that flight, it was
cancelled. I was supposed to be in Houston at 6pm. I got here at
12:30am.
Look up the date. Flight 297 Atlanta to Houston.
If this wasn’t a dry run, I don’t know what one is. They wanted to
see how TSA would handle it, how the crew would handle it, and how
the passengers would handle it.
I’m telling this to you because I want you to know …
The threat is real. I saw it with my own eyes …
In mid-November 2009, a brief Associated Press news account
<https://web.archive.org/web/20091121030304/https://www.khou.com/news
/ Phone-call-delays-Houston-bound-AirTran-flight-70369417.html>
reported an incident that had taken place on an AirTran Airways
flight from Atlanta to Houston, one which resulted in the plane’s
returning to the gate and departing 2½ hours late due to a passenger
who would not shut off his cell phone when so directed by a flight attendant.
A fuller article
<http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/faa-to-investigate-cell-phone-use
-
on-atlanta-fligh/nQZJ4/>
published by the Atlanta /Journal-Constitution/, who interviewed a
woman seated directly behind the passenger in question, provided more
detail:
The passenger with the cell phone was part of a larger group (eleven
others, plus an interpreter) seated throughout the plane; the
passenger and the interpreter were asked to step off the plane (the
other eleven members of the group also left the plane, although they
eventually reboarded the same flight, while the passenger and the
interpreter took a later flight); twelve other passengers also took
up the airline’s offer to allow them to leave the plane and take a
different flight; and a new crew eventually manned the flight when it
finally departed.
An AirTran spokesman said the issue was a simple matter of a
passenger who would not turn off his cell phone when directed (a
situation complicated by the passenger’s inability to speak English),
requiring the flight to return to the gate:
It’s unclear whether he was talking on the phone, snapping photos or
texting, AirTran spokesman Christopher White said. But to airline
officials and flight attendants, it didn’t matter. The Boeing 717
had pulled away from the gate, and the phone was on, White said.
“Flight attendants were telling him, ‘Turn off the phone, turn off
the phone,'” White said.
“We can’t taxi with the cell phone on, and we certainly can’t take
off,” White said. “Language barrier or not, you start to butt up
against interfering with a flight crew.”
Although the incident was reported to the Federal Aviation
Administration (FAA), the Transportation Security Administration
(TSA) said it would not follow up, as it was a customer service issue
and not a security issue:
“Passengers are required to follow instructions of the flight
attendants,” regional FAA spokeswoman Kathleen Bergen said. AirTran
reported the incident to the FAA, Bergen said. The federal
Transportation Security Administration will not handle the incident,
saying it is a customer-service issue between the passenger and the
airline, a TSA spokesman said.
The woman on the flight who was interviewed by the
/Journal-Constitution/ maintained that the passenger in question had
a camera, not a cell phone, and that the incident was merely one of
confusion involving a non-English speaking passenger which was blown
out of proportion due to “poor communication”:
The woman sitting behind the man said it wasn’t a phone at all, and
feels the entire incident was the result of poor communication.
“He was not talking on a cell phone, it was a camera,” said Nancy
Deveikis of Marietta. “He was looking at pictures.”
A flight attendant asked the man twice to turn off the device,
Deveikis said. But it was clear the man did not speak English, she
said. Although the man was traveling with others, the rest of the
group was seated throughout the plane.
When the man did not respond to the flight attendant, she took the
camera from him, Deveikis said.
“She grabbed it from his hand and basically said I’ll be holding
this until you get off the plane,” Deveikis said.
Deveikis said she never heard the one flight attendant use the word
“phone” when speaking to the man.
[Deveikis said] the whole incident, which scared other passengers
who weren’t clear what was happening, could have easily been avoided.
“Just one flight attendant snowed everyone into believing she had an
irate passenger,” Deveikis said.
Shortly after these events, a widely circulated account of the
incident (reproduced above) appeared on the Internet from Todd
Petruna, who maintained that he was a passenger on the referenced
flight and that what really took place was quite different than what
was reported in the news. According to Petruna, Muslim passengers on
the flight were potential terrorists who were making a “dry run” at
hijacking an airliner.
In anther account, a chaplain
<http://espositosmusings.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/air-tran-flight-
2
97-incident1.pdf>
who was originally slated to fly on Flight 297 (but had arrived late
and missed the initial boarding) reported that another passenger who
left the plane before its eventual take-off told him that, as stated
in Todd Petruna’s message, the incident involved more than the single
passenger mentioned by AirTran representatives and news reports:
12 men of Middle Eastern appearance stood up and began dancing and
singing in an Arabic dialect. They refused to be seated when
directed to do so by the flight attendants. Then, the singing
stopped and some of the men took out their cell phones and began
taking pictures of the other individual passengers. Again, the men
were ordered to be seated by the flight crew and refused while
continuing to take their pictures. Next, the de-boarded passenger
related that a few of the men gestured [using their fingers] as
imaginary guns, indicating with their triggering action that they
would shoot the people on the plane.
However, none of the news accounts of the Flight 297 incident
mentioned members of a passenger group screaming insults at the
flight crew or being bodily ejected from the plane by other
passengers. On 4 December 2009, AirTran issued a point-by-point
rebuttal
<http://web.archive.org/web/20100208221214/http://www.insideairtran.c
o
m/?p=2200>
of the original account, maintaining (among other statements) that
the members of the group in question were dressed just like other
passengers (rather than in “Muslim attire”), that there were no
reports of their screaming insults at crew members, that there were
no reports of any of them standing up in a threatening manner, that
there were no physical altercations between any passengers, that the
group’s bags were not removed from the plane, that none of the group
members was determined to pose a security threat, that there was no
TSA agent on the plane, and that no passenger was refused permission
to get off the
plane:
On November 17, 2009, AirTran flight 297 was scheduled to travel
from Atlanta to Houston-Hobby. During taxi a passenger was
non-compliant with Crew Members, using a cell phone and taking
pictures. The flight taxied back to the gate and the passenger, who
did not speak English, and his companion acting as his interpreter
were asked to de-plane. They were met by customer service personnel
and TSA.
The passengers were allowed to re-board and continued on the flight
after speaking with AirTran and TSA representatives. The flight was
delayed by more than two hours.
Since the flight and initial media reports, several blogs and
Internet sites have recounted the incident as portrayed by a
passenger originally scheduled for the flight. Below is that
passenger’s account (unedited in any way including spelling and
grammar), as reported on several blogs. Highlighted between the
passenger’s account, are the factually accurate circumstances
surrounding this incident.
We bring this to your attention in order to dispel myths that are
beginning to make the rounds in chat rooms, blogs and conspiracy
theorists’ Web sites.
*AirTran 297 – Anatomy of an Urban Legend
<http://web.archive.org/web/20100208221214/http://www.insideairtran.c
o
m/?p=2200>*
AirTran also issued a statement maintaining that Todd Petruna not
actually a passenger on Flight 297:
After conducting additional research into this situation, we have
verified, according to flight manifests (legally binding documents)
that the individual that allegedly created a first-hand account of
events on-board AirTran Airways flight 297, a Theodore Petruna, was
never actually on-board the flight.
According to all available records, Mr. Petruna’s trip originated
from Akron-Canton, Ohio (CAK) on AirTran flight 205. This flight
arrived at the gate in Atlanta at 5:06 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
Flight 297, the flight which Mr. Petruna allegedly wrote a
first-hand account of, originally pushed back from its gate in
Atlanta at 4:40 p.m. EST, a full 26 minutes before flight 205
arrived at the gate in Atlanta, making this flight connection
impossible.
While Mr. Petruna was originally scheduled to begin his journey on
AirTran flight 202 from CAK and connect to flight 297 in Atlanta he
did not make that original flight.
According to a /Marietta Daily Journal/ reporter and Houston station
KHOU-TV, the e-mail’s author acknowledged he had embellished his
account but maintained that he was in fact on the flight:
He admits that his description of the men’s attire was wrong, [that]
he didn’t personally see anyone watching pornographic videos, [and
that] he’d taken artistic license with a couple points, never
imagining [his account] would travel beyond his circle of friends.
AirTran [posted] the assertion that the disputed e-mail writer from
Texas, according to “legally binding” flight manifests, wasn’t on
the plane.
The e-mail writer [said] AirTran is lying and he has his boarding
pass.
Another Flight 297 passenger interviewed by Atlanta television
station WSB stated that although he did see a number of Middle
Eastern passengers on the flight walking around, interacting with
each other, and being uncooperative with the flight crew, and
although he felt AirTran mishandled the incident (primarily by not
communicating information about the situation to other passengers),
none of the group in question was dancing, singing, taking pictures,
or ended up being manhandled off the airplane by other passengers. He
also stated that he talked to the pilots on the replacement crew and
they reported they felt perfectly safe in flying the plane, and that
he thought the claim that the group of Middle Easterners were
potential hijackers or terrorists to be “far-fetched.”
(Contrary to common belief, the fact that a replacement crew was used
to complete the flight is not an indicator that the original flight
crew refused to continue or felt the situation to be unsafe. When
flights experience substantial delays in taking off, as Flight 297
did that day, that situation sometimes requires that the original
crew be replaced because otherwise they would “time out” and exceed
FAA limitations on maximum hours per working period.)
Snopes.com has long been engaged in the battle against
misinformation, an effort we could not sustain without the support of our
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Updated:30 August 2018
On 9/22/2018 3:22 PM, Carolyn wrote:
Here I will express why I believe this type of thinking is hogwash
and why I am disolutioned with the Muslim population overall.
From:
Subject: FW: CANCELLED FLIGHT: Muslims cause problems
11 Muslims cause problems on flight from Atlanta to Houston Why
isn't this in your politically correct media, if this is such a democracy?
Tedd Petruna is a diver at the NBL (Neutral Buoyancy Lab) facility
at NASA Houston .. Tedd happened to be on the AirTran Flight 297,
from Atlanta to Houston . Here's his report :
"One week ago, I went to Ohio on business and to see my father. On
Tuesday, the 17th, I returned home. If you read the papers the 18th
you may have seen a blurb about where an Air Tran flight was
canceled from Atlanta to Houston due to a man who refused to get off
of his cell phone before take- off..
The
story was only on Fox News That was NOT what really happened.
I was seated in 1st class coming home. Eleven Muslim men got on the
plane in full Muslim attire. Two of them sat in 1st class and the
rest seated themselves throughout the plane, in coach class, all the
way to the back.
As
the plane taxied out to the runway, the stewardesses gave the safety
spiel that we are all so familiar with.
At that time, one of the men in 1st class, got on his cell and
called one of his companions back in coach. He proceeded to talk on
the phone in Arabic very loudly and very, very aggressively. This
activity took the 1st stewardess out of action for she repeatedly
told the man that cell phones were not permitted at that time. He
ignored her as if she were not there.
The man, who answered the phone back in the coach section, did the
same and this took out the 2nd stewardess. Further back in the
plane, at the same time, two younger Muslims, one in the back on the
aisle, and one sitting in front of him by the window, began to show
footage of a porno video they had taped the night before. They were
very loud about it.
The 3rd stewardess informed the two men that they were not to have
any electronic devices on at this time. One of the men said "shut up
infidel dog!"
The stewardess attempted to take the camcorder and the Muslim began
to scream in her face in Arabic. At that exact moment, all eleven of
the men got up and started to walk throughout the cabin. I guess
that because of the noise, the flight crew must have decided that
there was something amiss and changed the plane's directions to head
back to the terminal.
The commotion and noise was reaching a feverish pitch, and at this
point I had had enough! I got up and started towards the back of 1st
class when I heard a voice behind me from another Texan twice my
size, say, "I got your back" Then I grabbed the man, who had been on
the cell phone, by the arm and said, "You WILL sit down in your seat
or you WILL be thrown from this plane!" As I "led" him around me to
take his seat, the fellow Texan grabbed him by the back of his neck
and his waist and headed him back to his seat.
I
then grabbed the 2nd man and said, "You WILL do the same!"
He protested loudly, but my adrenaline was flowing now and he was
going to go also. Just as I escorted him forward, the plane stopped,
the doors opened and three TSA agents and four police officers
entered the cabin. Myself and my new Texas friend were told to cease
and desist for they had the situation under control ??.
I was quite happy to oblige, actually. There was still some sort of
commotion in the back, but within moments, all eleven Muslim men
were escorted off the plane. The TSA agents then had their luggage unloaded.
We
talked about the occurrence and were in disbelief that it had happened.
Then suddenly, the door opened again and in walked all eleven Muslim
men!
Stone faced, eyes front and robotic, (the only way I can describe
it) and they were reseated. The stewardess from the back had been in
tears and when she saw the men, she was having NONE of it! Since I
was up front, I heard and saw the whole ordeal. She told the TSA
agents that there was NO WAY she was staying on the plane with the
Muslim men. The "agent" told her that they had searched the men and
were going through their luggage with a fine tooth comb. However,
nothing had been found and that the men were allowed to proceed on
to Houston.
The captain and co-captain came out of the cockpit and told the TSA
"agent", "We and our crew will not fly this plane!" After a word or
two, the entire crew, luggage in tow, left the plane. Five minutes
later, the cabin door opened again and a whole new crew walked on.
Again, this was where I had had enough! I got up and asked the TSA
agent," What the hell is going on?
I was told to take my seat. The airlines and TSA were sorry for the
delay and we would be home shortly. I said, "I'm getting off this
plane". The stewardess sternly told me that she could not allow me
to get off. Now I'm really mad! I said, "I am a grown man who bought
this ticket, whose time is mine, with a family at home, and I am
going through that door, or I'm going through that door with you
under my arm, but I AM going through that door!"
And then I heard a voice behind me say, "So am I!" Then everyone
behind us started to get up and say the same thing. Within two
minutes, I was walking off that plane where I was met by more TSA
agents, who asked me to write a statement about the incident. I had
five hours to kill at this point waiting for the next flight to
Houston , so why the hell not give them my statement.
Due to the amount of people who got off that flight, it was canceled.
I was supposed to be in Houston at 6 PM, but I finally got there at
12:30 AM.
If
you don't believe this, look up the date and then Flight 297 from
Atlanta to Houston.
If this wasn't a terrorism dry run, I don't know what is. The
terrorists wanted to see how "TSA"(thousands standing around) would
handle it, how the crew would handle it, and how the passengers
would handle it. I'm telling this to you because I want you to know.
The threat IS real. I saw it with my own eyes."
Tedd Petruna
May I request that you keep this going until this incident reaches
the email of all POLITICIANS and the news media!
PEOPLE THAT DELETE THIS TYPE OF EMAIL, REFUSE TO PASS IT ON, OR
SIMPLY DON'T CARE ARE ONE OF THE REASONS THAT PEOPLE THAT DO CARE
CAN'T MAKE ANY HEADWAY.. THE THREATS ARE REAL.
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Subject: Re: [blind-democracy] Freedom of expression
Bob:
It certainly appears that the grapes are sour!
Richard
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 21, 2018, at 11:02 PM, Mostafa <ebob824@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Freedom of speech is the right to express your independent opinions
and convictions in public without being restrained, threatened or
censored. Ordinarily, the United States is prejudiciously portrayed
as the paragon of free expression worldwide. I distinctly destine
to pick Americanism apart. Each and everyone in many regions across
the globe is entitled to opine his opinion freely. The United
States did not invent the right of free expression. It is not
exclusive to American Constitution or its amendments. Freedom of
expression is openly practiced therein as long as Islam is incessantly
denigrated.
Nevertheless, if someone oppugned the holocaust or its chronicle's
authenticity, for instance, he is instantly subjected to
counterfeit allegations of antisemitism. This is my endeavour
concern of American double standard. When a Muslim Commits mass
murder, he is unhesitatingly labelled with perpetrating terror.
However, if a white supremacist committed mass murder with even
higher rate of fatalities, he is classified as a demented and
atypical individual. I have no idea, how to illustrate this plain
contradiction? How could you be fairish and oppressive
simultaneously? I respect decent Americans. Be that as it may, as
to Americanism, how could you consistently be guilty, jury and
judge concurrently? Freedom of expression is the major factor by
which the United States is allegedly portrayed with unprecedented prodigy.
However, freedom of expression therein seems to somewhat be
infructuous. So for instance, as to America's longstanding crisis
of culpably perennial fatal mass shootings, the National Rifle
Association blocks any congressional bill which aims to relatively
rectify the pitiful situation. For them, the subject is just
unforfeitable. Thence, freedom of expression resembles emptied
rhetoric at some point. If your freedom of expression doesn't allow
you to enact freely, your words may equate some bunch of barking dogs.
Who cares if the dog barks at him? In other words, if the National
Rifle Association listens incautiously to periodical congressional
criticism of irrepressible munition across the nation, what is the
significance of their critique then? What is the point of
congressional authorities being critical of unrestricted gun mongers?
I urge you folks to ponder on my proposition. Yes, here in Egypt,
freedom of expression is perfectly missing. If someone spoke
against Sisi's regime or his coup based governance, he is
emphatically subjected to scathingly be detained, imprisoned and
ruthlessly excruciated. We recognise that and we fairly admit
freedom of expression total absence. This is quite unfortunate but
factual. We couldn't deny it or wrongly fend for the military based
dictator.
However, we strenuously strive in the cause of favourably retaining
its prosperity. Liberal media may have spoke against Donald Trump
and his policies of implementing racial disparity in addition to
farther major catastrophes hitherto, they are not able to alter the
way he deliberately perpetrates cruelty. So for instance, as for
the issue of remanded children because their parents immigrated
illicitly, why haven't they been just expatriated along with their
families? The media brought the subject briefly and then, closed
the file while the prob hasn't yet been resolved. Principally, the
conception of unequivocally free speech in the United States is an
enormous fib. Do you know what is really free in the States? It is
greed and corporal establishment. This vividly reflects the
dominance of patrician landholders of the American South as of
pastoral panel and other chiselers. Who could have spoke out
against Israel's brutality which is relentlessly imposed on
decently innocent civilians as of women and children in the
congressional arena? There is no one member in the Congress who
could have spoke in the favour of Palestinian refugee crisis unless
he aims to infinitely lose his seat. Is this what you ironically call
freedom?
I believe it is crucial to sincerely reconsider the American
portraiture of free expression and measure that according to actual
information. Is American vision of free expression sufficiently genuine?
I won't answer this question for now.
I'll rather leave it at your hand, so you could have a chance to
think about it and come up with the proper answer. I destine to
considerably expand the discussion of this subject because it is of
mutual interest. I at least think so. Thank you for reading,
Mustafa Almahdy.
Best wishes, it is always hope that gives meaning to life.
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