That is very true and rather unfortunate
On 12/24/17, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Bob,
Yes, the relationship between Israel and Saudi Arabia shows that power and
money appear to be more important than people's religious and moral beliefs.
A very long time ago, when I was a child and the State of Israel was first
declared, Saudi Arabia appeared to be an enemy of Israel. Back then, Egypt
was also an enemy of Israel. Now Egypt cooperates with Israel to keep people
imprisoned in Gaza and Saudi Arabia and Israel cooperate on many projects.
Miriam
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Miriam, thank you for your response. I should have clarified this. I knew
for certain that not all Jews and Christians are backing American government
position.
I encountered a Jew from Florida who doesn't give credit to pro Zionism
agenda.
The problem just is, there are many people from these religions and even,
Muslims who are backing this act of territorial larceny.
They do so for political and economic interest.
That may possibly explain the recent strange relationship between Israel and
the conservative monarchy of Saudi Arabia.
I began to like this list more than ever before.
Thank you and Merry Christmas to all.
Bob
On 12/23/17, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Bob,
I agree with you that the American position on Jerusalem is wrong.
Please don't generalize about all American Protestants and all
American Jews.
It is a particular group of right wing Evangelical Christians who
agree with the American position.
It is a percentage of American Jews who are Zionists and a percentage
of those Zionists who agree with the government's position.
There are huge numbers of American Christians, Protestants and
Catholics who do not like what their government is doing. American
Jews are split between those who are Zionists and those who are not.
As time goes by, fewer and fewer American Jews support Israel. The
American Jewish establishment does not necessarily represent what
individual Jewish people think, just like the American government does
not necessarily represent what individual Americans think.
And remember, there are powerful wealthy people who control the media
and American political institutions. They manipulate public opinion.
We need to communicate as individuals. We must stop communicating as
if we were each representatives of our respective governments or our
respective religious institutions.
Miriam
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Hello. As the western world is busy parting this Gregorian year,
Muslims collectively are intemperately incensed with the United
States. We wholly witnessed how the States representative to the
United Nations reacted belligerently to the general assembly as it
has voted not to comply to Trump’s transgressive proposal to move his
nation’s embassy to the holy city. American representative breached
her courtesy when she thuggishly threatened general assembly
attendees. I spurn American seriousness to solve the longly remaining
crisis. As I stated on multiple occasions earlier, American
Protestants are basically colluded with Zionists. They absurdly assume
the fulfillment of allegedly, a theological prophecy. Jews convinced
them to believe so as they indoctrinated the German Theologian martin
Luther and gradually turned him against the Catholic Church.
Christians are unconscious of being fooled and Jews are happily taking
advantage of the miserable situation. Despite what they attempt to
indoctrinate us with, we knew they are owned by the Jews. They rule
and Christians have to follow. An international court must be settled
to publicly prosecute those oppressors. Their initial aim is to make
us forsake our beliefs and adherence to sacredness. Thence, the world
must unite in purpose. We have got to relentlessly practice pressure
on the States until it’s coerced to comply to genuine peace
procedures. As they explicitly threatened to cut financial aid to any
nation that voted against their pro Zionist proposal, we are humanly
obliged to substantially ostracise American interest in the region. We
should hasten to ban any American enterprise. Oil must be boycotted
and diplomats in all Muslim nations ought to temporarily be suspended.
Anyone is thought to favour this unjust and hostilely proposal must
instantly be shunned. We have the strength of unity to make them
comply to incomparable tenets of justice. As to average American
citizens who indeed have got nothing to do with the present ordeal
with officials of their country, we should not attempt to bait them in
any manner. Indeed, Merry Christmas and prosperous holiday to peaceful
celebrants.
Bob