Well Bob Evans, the world is full of folks like Mary. They have been
pumped full of misinformation, amply laced with Fear, and charmed by
the "golden tongues of con artists like Donald J. Trump.
To me, the ultimate goal of the Ruling Class was to create the
American worker into the image of a character on radio and TV during
the 1940's to the early 1960's. The Program was a 30 minute Sit Com
featuring William Bendix as Chester A. Riley. Riley worked in a
factory and was married with a son and a daughter. His wife, Peg, was
at least five times brighter than he. Even his two young children
could outwit him. Riley was just a lumbering, plodding family man,
proud to be an American, and never questioning why he kept getting the
short end of the stick, to which he would groan, "What a revolting
development this is!"
But to me, the statement that stood out above all others was his
dogged comment, "Don't confuse me with facts. My head is made up."
And this Comic Character sums up where the American Ruling Class sees
the average American Worker. And that is also the image being adopted
by far too many working class Americans.
Carl Jarvis
On 12/27/17, Bob Evans <ebob824@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I just countered this old post.
Someone called Mary said and I quote:
"You must obey or off with your head, literally. Muslim populations
are rising in each European nation, they already have conclaves of
domination in them, and they intend to get rid of Christian, Jews,
Buddists,
and all other beliefs than their own. It is the definition of jihad."
Mary, where did you get this absurd definition of Jihad from?
I deeply laugh at some people's ignorance, prejudice, their obsession
to live in terror to justify their transgression on foreign nations.
Where did you study Islamic jural?
Before you send something, check your spelling first.
I won't hide nor deny my belief in Jihad though.
But, not the one your government maintains to portray, like the made
up fib of Da'ish and so forth.
Jihad is a combat mission to subdue aggression and establish
incomparable justice.
There is a documentary I urge you to watch.
It is called Jihad on terrorism, produced by bridges foundation.
It is a global organisation dedicated to raise awareness about genuine
moderate Islam across the the world.
Here is their website:
http://www.bridges-foundation.org
Here is the Youtube version of Jihad on terrorism:
It's a long documentary, made to those who sincerely seek for knowing the
truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfQsa0x86wE
Yes, we are enjoined to subdue oppressors like the chief of your
nation, Israeli invaders and anyone who sustains aggression or foreign
occupation.
In addition to people like you, you're not to be fought with sowrd,
but rather, word for word.
We do not need to kill you to get rid of you.
It's just enough to kill who pulls the trigger to terrorise his
protagonists.
We do not need conclaves. Everything we say and do is publicly shown.
People like you are now exposed and broadly trolled.
Trumpism has a blast but it won't last.
On 11/7/17, MARY CONVY <CCRUSER@xxxxxxx> wrote:
No Miriam, We do not go in and demand any country conform to our laws.
But
to to Brussels, or Paris and live in a Shiria district where Muslim law
rules.` You must obey or off with your head, literally. Muslim
populations
are rising in each European nation, they already have conclaves of
domination in them, and they intend to get rid of Christian, Jews,
Buddists,
and all other beliefs than their own. It is the definition of jihad.
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Sent: Monday, November 6, 2017 5:10 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Texas Church mass shooting
OK. I’ll accept you definition and according to it, the US is a terrorist
state.
Miriam
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of MARY CONVY
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 10:32 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Texas Church mass shooting
People have different definitions for terrorism and yours differs from
mine.
Too many times terms are watered down and lose their meaning. Bullying
is
the worst example. Even time a kid is looked at cross-eyed it is not
bully.
And a mentally ill guy shooting up his in-law's church is not the same as
a
guy running a truck into a crowd with the goal of killing all
non-Muslims
in the name of Allah so they can take over the world. It is very
different
and just a very weak attempt to say, oh, Muslims aren't the only ones to
kill--you white guys do too. We never used the word terrorism for crazy
guys committing mass murder and we shouldn't today. True terrorism
actually
wants to instill world wide terror in the entire world's population that
does not submit to their way of thinking. The goal is world takeover. A
crazy guy shooting up a church may scare the heck out of us, but his goal
is
not world wide terror.
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on behalf of Miriam Vieni
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Sent: Monday, November 6, 2017 10:01 AM
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Texas Church mass shooting
I don’t hate government. I think government should stop representing the
interests of corporations and should start representing the interests of
the
majority of people. I believe that we should have more services provided
by
all of us to all of us and stop privatizing everything and stop with the
“public/private partnerships”.
But he must have had a reason for choosing to shoot people in a church,
even
though he has a history of violence. If you look at the people who were
immediately labeled terrorists, they also had questionable histories,
which
was what I was trying to say the other day, and then they had a rationale
for doing what they did. For some of them, claiming membership in ISIS,
was
the rationale. In his mind, this guy also had a rationale. We just don’t
know what it was, and because he doesn’t have a Muslim name, no one is
labeling what he did, “terrorism”.
Miriam
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[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of MARY CONVY
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Texas Church mass shooting
He's nuts. Dishonorable discharge from Air Force, history of violence,
hates government. One thing in common with many here. He was shooting
fish
in a barrel and they would all be dead if it weren't for a neighbor who
came
running with his own gun and shot the guy.
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Texas Church mass shooting
No motive is being suggested, hmm.
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Texas Church mass shooting
I just read the Washington Post article. No motive is being suggested.
Apparently, they don't know anything about the man who did the shooting
except that he's white. Interestingly, this is, I gather a white Baptist
congregation. One would have expected some quotes from officials about
increasing gun violence and the need for immediate gun control
legislation.
Not a word!
Miriam
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Texas Church mass shooting
Hello. Unfortunately, at least 26 people have been killed after a gunman
opened fire at a church during Sunday services, officials say. The
attack
happened at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, a small town
in
Wilson County, Texas. The gunman, who is reported to have been killed in
the
aftermath, entered the church and opened fire at around 11:30 local time
(17:30 GMT). Governor Greg Abbott confirmed the death toll and said it
was
the worst mass shooting in the history of Texas. "This will be a long,
suffering mourning for those in pain," he said at a news conference on
Sunday. Texas Department of Public Safety regional director Freeman
Martin
said the ages of the victims ranged from 5 to 72 years old. Authorities
said
at least 20 people were also injured and taken to hospital. Mr Martin
described the suspect as a young white male in his early 20s, dressed in
all
black and wearing a ballistic vest as well as tactical-type gear. He was
armed with an assault-style rifle. He began shooting outside the church
before he entered and opened fire, Mr Martin said. A local citizen
"grabbed
his rifle and began shooting" at the suspect, before the gunman fled in
a
vehicle. The citizen pursued the suspect, who drove off the road and
crashed
his car at the Guadalupe County line. Police found the suspect dead in
his
car, but it is unclear if he died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound or
from returned fire from the citizen, Mr Martin added. As usual, the
incident
is described as a national tragedy. However, it won't ever be viewed as
an
act of terror nor it won't urge law enforcement commission to
desperately
hasten for gun law redressal. The situation has been clearer than ever
before. If a Muslim committed this incident, it would have been
instantly
described as a denotative act of terror. It would have surged brunt
Islamophobic sentiment across the States. The rate of hate and
despicable
bigotry has reached its peak of extremity. I am genuinely questioning
your
jural authority, is it sufficiently judicial? The shooter has been
described
as a lone gunman and Trump called the incident a horrible crime. I am
now
an
unfeigned percipient of American deliberate secernment of murder
incidents.
It just depends on who is the criminal. If he happened to be Muslim, he
is
a
brutal terrorist. But, if he was a white guy, he is just a lunatic,
mentally
unbalanced. This racialist scenario is incessantly iterated. I really
don't
know what to say at this point. I just hope no one you know has been
anguished. Of course, I grieve what happened. This was rather
unfortunate.
What concerns me at this point though, is the double standard of viewing
such incidents. It essentially depends on who is the crook. I
criminalise
such incidents. I call them intolerable acts of terror, despite who's
the
murderer. I do not think someone in the States or elsewhere may disagree
with me. However, Some white supremacists make a plain distinction
between
malefactors, depending on their faith or race. I am saddened seeing more
innocent souls lost because the National Rifle Association blocks off
any
bills to regulate weapon possession. The situation worsens excessively
while
the solution is plain and straightforward. The battle between greed and
law
enforcement is subjected to vastly intensify. Congress is dominated
with
gun boosters. Senator Ted Cruz is just one of them. I wonder, what will
he
possibly do subsequent to this grave mass shooting in his State?
Bob Evans