[dbaust] Re: Document and Web Accessibility Issues
- From: "Stephen Hallinan" <sph@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <dbaust@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 13:37:17 +1000
Hi,
I've changed the heading of the discussion to reflect where we seem to be
going with this discussion. The link to the BCA policies page is:
http://wordpress.bca.org.au/polocy/
This page does contain a policy about the 8 steps to take when advocating
for a web site to be made accessible, but not a list of the issues that
often arise - for example: colour schemes, use of PDF files, organization of
tables etc. All these issues have been mentioned in the last couple of days.
It does appear there is a need for a document to be developed.
Regards
Stephen
-----Original Message-----
From: dbaust-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dbaust-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Peter M Risby
Sent: Monday, 14 July 2014 1:05 PM
To: dbaust@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [dbaust] Re: QLD Information Booklets for Families of Young
Children with Disability
Hello Meredith
I have reading missed page not found website vision Australia much.
Wrong to
http://www.visionaustralia.org/living-with-low-vision/library/about-our-libr
ary/library-blog/blog/accessibility-blog/2013/10/20/the-low-down-on-pdfs-(fo
r-those-who-don-t-already-know)
Cheers,
Peter Risby
DBA(NSW) of Treasurer and Mengment Committee.
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From: "Meredith Prain" <Meredith.Prain@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 8:56 AM
To: <dbaust@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [dbaust] Re: QLD Information Booklets for Families of Young
Children with Disability
> Great discussion everyone.
> I've just looked on the BCA website and can't find any information
> about accessible formats so I have emailed them.
> I also looked on the Vision Australia website and found this link
> which explains a bit about converting PDFs.
> I agree with everyone - we need one standard document in easy English
> which explains the variety of needs of people with deafblindness when
> accessing electronic information.
> I have been told by a few people that this information already exists
> so I'll keep looking for it and let you know what I find.
> Here is some information from Vision Australia that may be interesting
> or useful but I want to warn you it is a bit long and complicated
> about how to convert PDF files.
> http://www.visionaustralia.org/living-with-low-vision/library/about-ou
> r-library/library-blog/blog/accessibility-blog/2013/10/20/the-low-down
> -on-pdfs-(for-those-who-don-t-already-know)
> I will get back to you when I find more information.
> Kind regards,
> Meredith
>
>
> Meredith Prain CPSP, PhD
> Speech Pathologist /Let's Connect Project Officer / Video Interaction
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: dbaust-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dbaust-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Trudy Ryall
> Sent: Sunday, 13 July 2014 11:18 PM
> To: dbaust@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [dbaust] Re: QLD Information Booklets for Families of Young
> Children with Disability
>
> Also maybe there can be a campaign about improving communication access
> for deafblind people within Australia ?
> Trudy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Trudy Ryall" <trudy.ryall@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <dbaust@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:04 PM
> Subject: [dbaust] Re: QLD Information Booklets for Families of Young
> Children with Disability
>
>
>> Yeah hello all it is a project to advocate that deafblind people need
>> accessible communication in what ever form out they need and apply the
>> UN convention of rights in every situation.
>> Have a good week.
>> Trudy
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Stephen Hallinan" <sph@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <dbaust@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 8:44 PM
>> Subject: [dbaust] Re: QLD Information Booklets for Families of Young
>> Children with Disability
>>
>>
>>> Hello Heather,
>>>
>>> Yes, I understand. Sometimes those of us who have English as first
>>> language use words which don't translate well to Auslan or other
>>> languages. You are right, it is something else we have to think
>>> about. How to say things using clear language.
>>>
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dbaust-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:dbaust-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Heather Lawson
>>> Sent: Sunday, 13 July 2014 7:52 PM
>>> To: dbaust@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [dbaust] Re: QLD Information Booklets for Families of Young
>>> Children with Disability
>>>
>>> hello all
>>>
>>> yeah BCA may have. If we think we would like to write one document
>>> due to deafblind poor english. They sometimes hard to write to explain
>>> due to
>>> their first langauge Auslan or other low level of english writing. the
>>> document can be written on bhealf of deafblind community. only a
>>> thought.
>>>
>>> I willlook at BCA wetsite if I have time.
>>>
>>> Thanks Stephen and others
>>>
>>> Cheers Heather
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Stephen Hallinan" <sph@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <dbaust@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:02 PM
>>> Subject: [dbaust] Re: QLD Information Booklets for Families of Young
>>> Children with Disability
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello Heather, Peter and others,
>>>>
>>>> The idea of a document explaining how to make websites and documents
>>>> easier for deafblind to read is a good one. It may take some effort
>>>> as some of us have low vision, others are blind, and some have a
>>>> degree of hearing. Some of the work may already have been done for
>>>> us. I think Blind Citizens Australia (BCA) have some policies on
>>>> their website suggesting how web pages should be designed to make
>>>> them accessible to people who are blind. There are likely to be
>>>> other useful documents about accessible website design and how to
>>>> produce accessible documents at other places on the web also.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Stephen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: dbaust-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:dbaust-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Peter M Risby
>>>> Sent: Sunday, 13 July 2014 4:43 PM
>>>> To: dbaust@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [dbaust] Re: QLD Information Booklets for Families of Young
>>>> Children with Disability
>>>>
>>>> Hello All
>>>>
>>>> I has lost reading PDF background black and white Text a problem. I
>>>> tried fixed PDF problem Deafblind people not like reading background
>>>> white and Text black fixed.
>>>> Skype and PDF no change fixed black and white a problem.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Peter Risby.
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Heather Lawson" <lawsonhj@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 1:41 PM
>>>> To: <dbaust@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [dbaust] Re: QLD Information Booklets for Families of Young
>>>> Children with Disability
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Stephen
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for that. I will look if it is readiable on my braille
>>>>> display.
>>>>>
>>>>> My suggestion if we make one document regards what problems that
>>>>> Deafblind people have like PDF, tables, colours, etc then we
>>>>> deafblind can keep the same document to send to any website or
>>>>> agencies to tell them to make awareness. We need to tell the
>>>>> world we deafblind are intelligent, can learn any computer
>>>>> communication but we need fair accessiable on any technology
>>>>> communciation. Maybe Claire Telleson can help with the written
>>>>> document. It would save our time to write write write write all
>>>>> prblem but one document we cankeep in file
>>>> and send out whenever.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wha tyou think
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers Heather
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Stephen Hallinan" <sph@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <dbaust@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 10:59 AM
>>>>> Subject: [dbaust] Re: QLD Information Booklets for Families of
>>>>> Young Children with Disability
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Trudy, Heather and Carleeta,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree, sending feedback to the website developers to let them
>>>>>> know PDF is not always accessible to everyone and Word format
>>>>>> would help also is a good idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For now, I have run the document through a PDF to Word converter
>>>>>> and attach the file I got from it. I don't think it converted
>>>>>> perfectly, but it does look readable using JAWS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: dbaust-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:dbaust-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trudy Ryall
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 12 July 2014 9:19 PM
>>>>>> To: dbaust@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [dbaust] Re: QLD Information Booklets for Families of
>>>>>> Young Children with Disability
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Heather and Carletta thank you for the feedback. I got the 25
>>>>>> page booklet from the website and it was only in PDF form out.
>>>>>> Maybe send feedback to the website developers.
>>>>>> Trudy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Heather Lawson" <lawsonhj@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <dbaust@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 6:23 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [dbaust] Re: QLD Information Booklets for Families of
>>>>>> Young Children with Disability
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you Carleeta for sharing. something for this DBAUST list
>>>>>>> we may need to mkke sure someone to send word document.
>>>>>>> annoyeable at times when receiving PDF formatting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Heather----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Carleeta Manser" <clmanser@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <dbaust@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 6:11 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [dbaust] Re: QLD Information Booklets for Families of
>>>>>>> Young Children with Disability
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, Heather, I have that problem to open PDF. It annoys me when
>>>>>>>> I get asn yattachment with PDF, I miss out a lot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Carleeta
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Heather Lawson" <lawsonhj@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: <dbaust@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 9:36 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [dbaust] Re: QLD Information Booklets for Families of
>>>>>>>> Young Children with Disability
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Trudy and all
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder if any deafblind with braille reader have problem open
>>>>>>>> PDF format.
>>>>>>>> if yes, we need to be fair to everyone to have same format like
>>>>>>>> word doc.
>>>>>>>> It is sometimes not good for me and maybe others did not read
>>>>>>>> PDF and miss out reading.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks Heather
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: Trudy Ryall
>>>>>>>> To: dbaust@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Carla.Anderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> ; Binn Mackenzie ; stephen.hardy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:16 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [dbaust] QLD Information Booklets for Families of
>>>>>>>> Young Children with Disability
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Queensland Deafblind community For your information below
>>>>>>>> TRUDY
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Queensland Government has released a series of twelve (12)
>>>>>>>> information booklets for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> families of young children with disability.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The booklets are available on the Queensland Government website:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://publications.qld.gov.au/dataset/my-child-has-information-f
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> queensl
>>>>>> and-families-of-young-children
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See attached a booklet about deafblindness.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The booklets cover information on topics such as:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a.. diagnosis
>>>>>>>> b.. early intervention services
>>>>>>>> c.. early childhood education and care
>>>>>>>> d.. starting school
>>>>>>>> e.. aids, equipment and assistive technology
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For more information, please contact Judith Quirk, Manager
>>>>>>>> Strategic Policy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Telephone: 07324 3786 or email
>>>>>>>> Judith.quirk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>
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