----- Original Message ----- From: byk - byk@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: D and F Am I missing something? If there are schools where nobody is going to teach literature through HOTS, how are students going to take the 4 and 5 point bagrut? And on a different subject, the 3 point bagrut has been with us since the beginning of the point system, and how important it is. It is something to aim for, for those students whose English or learning skills are not ever going to get them further. Should that be a reason why they shouldn't learn English? It is certainly not the reason for the loweriing of standards that every teacher has noticed who has been teaching for upwards of 20 years. Jennifer Byk ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------