----- Original Message ----- From: Hilary Lavi - lahilavi@xxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Sandy Regev's posting This is an issue which should be addressed very seriously. All the Ofek Hadashim and Dovratim will never succeed in improving the education in Israel until something is done to deal with the lack of discipline that exists in so many schools here. It's about time teachers stopped "brushing the problem under the carpet" and stopped blaming themselves for their pupils' bad behavior. If we want our pupils to learn we need to push for reforms that force pupils to be responsible for their actions. Rali Jennifer wrote: >While you are considering the situation concerning LD students, and the enormous amount of work that English teachers have to put in, in order to deal with their needs, please also consider the horrendous situation vis a vis discipline in the classrooms. >This is not a subject that ought to be brushed under the table, for fear of being accused of being a teacher who can't control the class. Teachers are NOT animal trainers; a teacher should be able to give the lesson prepared, without having to fight with toatally undisciplined classes, and with no means at their disposal of dealing with unrully students. Even 20 children in a class cannot be taught if they are allowed to do whatever they like. >I have just returned from teaching a student in the 6th grade, who lives in a very exclusive area inthe centre of the country. They are on to their FIFTH teacher this year!!!, because, in my students words "We don't let them teach". ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - www.etni.org ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------