Many of our students in high school don't even use the exam-reading accommodation - they claim it confuses them and would rather struggle on their own, helped by the electronic dictionary and the extra time. You are right about teaching reading in elementary-junior high schools. However, I have 2 questions about that: 1) Are teachers at universities and colleges instructed in using effective teaching methods for reading? (I studies at the Hebrew University for my B.A and teaching certificate 35 years ago. I certainly wasn't taught any teaching methods. I had to learn on my own, while teaching 7th grade non-readers. I hope the situation has changed since.) 2) Are the current conditions in over-crowded, undisciplined classes conducive to effective teaching in how many lessons a week - two or three? I d really like to hear the opinions of junior-high teachers on this issue. Nira -------Original Message------- From: Ask Etni Date: 10/08/2009 15:03:35 To: Etni Subject: [etni] Fw: Heresy - re CDs, MP3s etc ----- Original Message ----- From: byk - byk@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Heresy - re CDs, MP3s etc With regards to accomodations for LD students, isn't it about time we started asking why there are so many pupils who need accomodations, and perhaps, dare I say it, questioning these accomodations? And before you jump down my throat, my own daughter needed accomadations, and only now, at the age of 32, this past Shavuot, did she come to me with a newspaper in English and said "Listen! I can read!" And it still takes her 5 hours to watch a film by Fellini (Italian), while she stops to read the subtitles. And I , too, still have great difficulty reading Hebrew, which is why I never took my teacher's license. HOWEVER, that said, a great many of the puupils with accomodations wouldn't need them iif they had been taught to read properly. I know. I teach many of them. I once had a whole class of 7th grade non-readeers, including one who couldn't read Hebrew. All were reading beautifully by the end of the year. They just needed more patience and time. The boy who couldn't read Hebrew, still needed reading to, but he knew how to read well enough to be able to follow the text. I think that it is time to demand that the Ministry intervenes in elementary school to make sure that the children are being taught to read properly, and that they can read. Further heresy - I think it is more important than concentrating on speaking. Jennifer Byk ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** ----------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------