[etni] Re: Fw: Passport dictionary for 3 pointers?

  • From: David Graniewitz <graniewitz@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ask@xxxxxxxx, "Etni" <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 15:14:18 +0200 (IST)

I remember that in the old days (pre NBA) 3 pointers were 
allowed to bring a simple dictionary that translated both 
ways. I myself realised that this was going to be a problem 
when the Bagrut became modular with the Module C overlap.
I don't know what the ruling is today, but even if 3 pointers 
are allowed to use these dictionaries, it realy won't give 
them any advantage as the C module is only an unseen. The 
answers can be copied straight from the text in most cases. 
Having a dictionary that translates from Hebrew to English 
won't help them in the slightest, so I don't think that it's 
worth worrying over.

More serious, in my opinion, is the fact that pupils with accommodations are 
allowed to bring electronic dictionaries 
that also translate from Hebrew to English. In 4 and 5 points 
this can give them an unfair advantage in writing the 
compositions as other pupils cannot look up words that they 
don't know in English. Fortunately, in my experience, many of 
them don't know how to use their  miloniot properly and write 
howlers when they look up words they don't know.

All the best
David Graniewitz
Jerusalem 

Subject: Passport dictionary for 3 pointers?


A teacher with many years of vetek told me that 3 pointers can 
bring in the 
Passport dictionary, that includes "Ivri- Angli." That seems 
illogical to me 
and I have never heard this before.

Can anyone deny or confirm this based on a good reliable 
source? And even if 
it were okay, if the 3 point pupil later decided to continue 
to try for the 
4 point exam, it would give him/ her an advantage over pupils 
who did C with 
the regular "angli-ivri-ivri" black Oxford. Sounds ridiculous 
to me. Can 
someone clear this up for me?

Many thanks in advance-
Esther Revivo
Ulpanat Tzvia Sedot Negev
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