[etni] Re: Fw: Telling it like it is
- From: devori avramovich <devoriavramovich@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: ask etni <ask@xxxxxxxx>, etni listserv <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 02:02:14 -0500
when the MOE changed the term from Magen grade to Shnati grade , i really
believed a change was coming.
As said before, i innocently believed that if a student works hard he deserves
those extra laboriously-earned points.
The problem is that a whole class / Shichva can get penalized if there are
obvious discrepancies between Shnati and Bagrut grades - and that's where the
problem lies! We cannot give high grades to weak students who work hard because
the principal is worried about those discrepancies!
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> Subject: [etni] Fw: Telling it like it is
> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:47:28 +0200
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> From: sbshai - sbshai@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Telling it like it is
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> Hello colleagues,
> I would like to propose a new poll on ETNI which asks teachers about their
> opinion of the tziun shnati.
>
> Let's be frank: Isn't this grade rather farcical? First, it is not an
> honest grade because we usually want (or are expected) to provide a "magen"
> for our students, which inherently suggests a largesse that may not be
> deserved. However, no matter how carefully we devise our system for
> determining this grade -- and regardless of the considerable pains we take
> to be fair -- it is inevitable that there will be disgruntled students,
> parents and/or administrators. (This is likely to be so even if we've
> stretched reality to the boundaries of fantasy!)
>
> Since students can retake the modules until they get one that's easy enough
> for them to do well on (and it's the highest grade that counts), I wish
> someone could explain why it's necessary to give a shnati mark at all;
> perhaps this should be an exclusive privilege for industrious students who
> are weak test-takers. Our effort is worthwhile for these students, at
> least. (Yes, I realize it can be problematic to decide who should be
> considered in this category!)
>
> What happens too often in the current situation is that the least worthy
> pupils work mightily (many for the first time in their student careers!) to
> wheedle a few more undeserved points out of their harried teachers. (I
> refer to this as shuk tziunim.) If this doesn't work, they can always try
> complaining to the mechanechet and/or the princiPAL that the teacher just
> doesn't like them. (The more candid ones will call it taking revenge!) As
> most of us know, this system unfortunately sometimes works in their favor.
>
> In too many schools, or so I have heard, teachers are encouraged to inflate
> grades. But as I anticipate a storm about to rage over my head, I'll stop
> right here!
>
> Pleasant (as possible) deliberating,
> Batya
>
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